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I was a heavy KDE user until 4 came out. After a massive amount of issues with it (Plasma crashes every few minutes on multiple devices with different hardware)

I was a heavy KDE user until 4 came out. After a massive amount of issues with it (Plasma crashes every few minutes on multiple devices with different hardware), I abandoned KDE and tried it from time to time after seeing comments like yours (roughly once a year or so). I don't know how well it works these days (no desire to spend any more time on trying it out), but IME it worked about as badly as the first 4.x releases until at least whatever version was the latest at the beginning of 2021. It's the same story every time — I install it, login into my desktop, start doing stuff, and get crashes at least once an hour (on wildly different hardware, on many releases ten years in a row). Nepomuk crashes, Plasma crashes, kio daemon (or whatever it was called) crashes, this thing and that. I found happiness in xfce4 (that beauty hasn't crashed even once in about 8 years of using it heavily), and then sway (same story, currently at two years).

chupasaurus 4y ago
> on wildly different hardware, on many releases ten years in a row Is the problem. Plasma has been my daily driver since 4.4, on Debian testing, on systems which I know beforehand wouldn't have any random issues (Debian-specific also).
- 5e92cb50239222b 4y ago
  Eh, maybe. I don't care either way anymore. If it works for you — great, I haven't been so lucky. Everything else has been running smoothly (even gnome), and as a fanatical Linux user I'm usually very careful in my choice of hardware (no nvidia/broadcom/etc).
robonerd 4y ago
Plasma crashes are not uncommon even with Intel graphics using a GPU driver in the mainline kernel. I don't see much "everybody's got different hardware" excuse with such a configuration; the GPU (and wifi, etc) drivers being in-kernel is 90% of why I bought this computer. Autohide panels is something Plasma seems to particularly struggle with. Sometimes the panel will start spazzing out, flickering and neither appearing nor disappearing, before finally crashing completely (and sometimes not coming back until I manually(!) restart plasma shell.)

chupasaurus 4y ago

> on wildly different hardware, on many releases ten years in a row Is the problem. Plasma has been my daily driver since 4.4, on Debian testing, on systems which I know beforehand wouldn't have any random issues (Debian-specific also).

5e92cb50239222b 4y ago
Eh, maybe. I don't care either way anymore. If it works for you — great, I haven't been so lucky. Everything else has been running smoothly (even gnome), and as a fanatical Linux user I'm usually very careful in my choice of hardware (no nvidia/broadcom/etc).

robonerd 4y ago

Plasma crashes are not uncommon even with Intel graphics using a GPU driver in the mainline kernel. I don't see much "everybody's got different hardware" excuse with such a configuration; the GPU (and wifi, etc) drivers being in-kernel is 90% of why I bought this computer. Autohide panels is something Plasma seems to particularly struggle with. Sometimes the panel will start spazzing out, flickering and neither appearing nor disappearing, before finally crashing completely (and sometimes not coming back until I manually(!) restart plasma shell.)