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It literally is though

by djbebs 4y ago

cmrdporcupine 4y ago
What bullshit. Implies that "truckers" as a category had their accounts frozen. How about: "Some people organizing a riot had their accounts frozen, some few of which might have been truckers, but probably not" Since, y'know, truckers actually have to earn a living trucking, not parking in downtown Ottawa for weeks leaning on their horns and blathering about overthrowing the government.
- tablespoon 4y ago
  > What bullshit. Implies that "truckers" as a category had their accounts frozen. > How about: "Some people organizing a riot had their accounts frozen, some few of which might have been truckers, but probably not" That's something like what "truckers" means in this context. The context means you don't need to spell it out in excruciating detail like you're demanding. Language works like that. I got what was meant immediately. Also, as far as I know, those protests were nothing like a "riot." Wasn't it mainly people parking illegally and honking horns obnoxiously? I get most of my news from the New York Times, and I mainly recall stories about how peaceful and well organized they were (compared to what you'd expect in America). If they were actually rioting, I don't think they would have given so much attention to stuff like that.
  - cmrdporcupine 4y ago
    "Parking illegally" is a bit of a mild description for what was effectively blockading the entire downtown business area for several weeks, harassing local businesses about their masking laws, driving through residential neighbourhoods with big trucks and horns blaring, and openly talking (in signs and speeches) about overthrowing an elected government. That and closing international border crossings? And at one of the crossings being armed? As controversial as they were, vaccine mandates were popular with the majority of Canadians and were part of the previous year's election campaign. The same government got in trouble earlier with the public (and official opposition) for not being strict enough at the border about COVID. At that point many I know were personally ready to see said vaccine mandates dropped. But most were also completely unwilling to let it be because a bunch of authoritarian right wing dickheads demanded it And the border things and vaccine mandates the truckers were complaining about were not even under the direct control of the Canadian govenrment but required by agreement with the US gov't. Note that the same "truckers" did not attempt such an occupation in the US, where the same mandate was put in place and required? Why? Because your Homeland Security would have swept them out and arrested them and tossed them in jail far quicker than ours did. They occupied the Canadian side of the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor, not the US. Because same reason.
    - tablespoon 4y ago
      None of those things are rioting, nor is it rioting to express an unpopular opinion loudly. Honestly, it sounds like you just really dislike the "truckers" and are mainly getting irate when you see mention of them that doesn't express a similar opinion by being obviously negative and condemnatory. It's indisputable the Canada froze the accounts of many of the truckers, which is frankly the only bit that's relevant to a cryptocurrency discussion. The OP of this sub-thread expressed that clearly and concisely, and going into too much detail about the protests themselves is a derail.
      - yifanl 4y ago
        > None of those things are rioting, nor is it rioting to express an unpopular opinion loudly. Who gets to decide that?
      - lupire 4y ago
        Preventing people from sleeping for weeks is torture. It's violence. Doing that in a mob is a riot.
        tablespoon 4y ago
        > Preventing people from sleeping for weeks is torture. It's violence. OK, then. So when do I get to haul my noisy neighbor in front of The Hague for his crimes against humanity?
        pierrebai 4y ago
        I'm sure you have a lengthy citation of truckers being sent to the Hague for crimes against humanity...
        tablespoon 4y ago
        > I'm sure you have a lengthy citation of truckers being sent to the Hague for crimes against humanity... No, I'm just mocking the hyperbole.

It literally is though

by djbebs 4y ago

It literally is though

What bullshit. Implies that "truckers" as a category had their accounts frozen. How about: "Some people organizing a riot had their accounts frozen, some few of which might have been truckers, but probably not" Since, y'know, truckers actually have to earn a living trucking, not parking in downtown Ottawa for weeks leaning on their horns and blathering about overthrowing the government.

tablespoon 4y ago
> What bullshit. Implies that "truckers" as a category had their accounts frozen. > How about: "Some people organizing a riot had their accounts frozen, some few of which might have been truckers, but probably not" That's something like what "truckers" means in this context. The context means you don't need to spell it out in excruciating detail like you're demanding. Language works like that. I got what was meant immediately. Also, as far as I know, those protests were nothing like a "riot." Wasn't it mainly people parking illegally and honking horns obnoxiously? I get most of my news from the New York Times, and I mainly recall stories about how peaceful and well organized they were (compared to what you'd expect in America). If they were actually rioting, I don't think they would have given so much attention to stuff like that.
- cmrdporcupine 4y ago
  "Parking illegally" is a bit of a mild description for what was effectively blockading the entire downtown business area for several weeks, harassing local businesses about their masking laws, driving through residential neighbourhoods with big trucks and horns blaring, and openly talking (in signs and speeches) about overthrowing an elected government. That and closing international border crossings? And at one of the crossings being armed? As controversial as they were, vaccine mandates were popular with the majority of Canadians and were part of the previous year's election campaign. The same government got in trouble earlier with the public (and official opposition) for not being strict enough at the border about COVID. At that point many I know were personally ready to see said vaccine mandates dropped. But most were also completely unwilling to let it be because a bunch of authoritarian right wing dickheads demanded it And the border things and vaccine mandates the truckers were complaining about were not even under the direct control of the Canadian govenrment but required by agreement with the US gov't. Note that the same "truckers" did not attempt such an occupation in the US, where the same mandate was put in place and required? Why? Because your Homeland Security would have swept them out and arrested them and tossed them in jail far quicker than ours did. They occupied the Canadian side of the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor, not the US. Because same reason.
  - tablespoon 4y ago
    None of those things are rioting, nor is it rioting to express an unpopular opinion loudly. Honestly, it sounds like you just really dislike the "truckers" and are mainly getting irate when you see mention of them that doesn't express a similar opinion by being obviously negative and condemnatory. It's indisputable the Canada froze the accounts of many of the truckers, which is frankly the only bit that's relevant to a cryptocurrency discussion. The OP of this sub-thread expressed that clearly and concisely, and going into too much detail about the protests themselves is a derail.
    - yifanl 4y ago
      > None of those things are rioting, nor is it rioting to express an unpopular opinion loudly. Who gets to decide that?
    - lupire 4y ago
      Preventing people from sleeping for weeks is torture. It's violence. Doing that in a mob is a riot.
      - tablespoon 4y ago
        > Preventing people from sleeping for weeks is torture. It's violence. OK, then. So when do I get to haul my noisy neighbor in front of The Hague for his crimes against humanity?
        pierrebai 4y ago
        I'm sure you have a lengthy citation of truckers being sent to the Hague for crimes against humanity...
        tablespoon 4y ago
        > I'm sure you have a lengthy citation of truckers being sent to the Hague for crimes against humanity... No, I'm just mocking the hyperbole.