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If it was like me, the KDE4 roll out was done way too haphazardly and wasn't usable for a bunch of releases (like 1.5-2 years? been a while) but a whole bunch o

If it was like me, the KDE4 roll out was done way too haphazardly and wasn't usable for a bunch of releases (like 1.5-2 years? been a while) but a whole bunch of distros adopted it anyway, despite the KDE developers saying it wasn't ready yet. That ended up leaving a lot of people with a bad taste for it. the Plasma 5 releases were handled much better. I'm hoping that this latest release fixes the last few bugs with wayland that i kept running into (mostly multimonitor crashes, been tracking the bugs and they claim to have fixed all the ones i remember seeing last, but we'll see). I really want to ditch X11 because there's a noticeable performance increase and better power usage with wayland, by about 4-5 watts on my laptop, when it does run. It's also got better handling of scaling displays which is nice but not as critical for me.

snapplebobapple 4y ago
This was what pushed me off kde back in the day and started a multiple year odyssey through all the lesser desktops before ending up on lxde for a while. When lxde started to get left behind as they tried to port to lxqt with limited resources I took kde 5 for a whirl and it was like meeting back up with an old friend and I haven't bothered with anything else since except a brief foray into qtile (I see why people like tiling desktops but I also really think they are not good for anyone with a diverse and ever changing usage/workflow sitaution vs just autobooting kde with a few windows set to autostart in fixed locations).
robonerd 4y ago
KDE 4.0 was abysmal, so bad it seemed like deliberate sabotage, and it didn't get much better through 4.2. That's when I gave up on KDE for several years (until about a year or so ago.) Now I'm trying to like it again, all the right pieces seem to be in place, but the constant introduction of new bugs to basic functionality has me questioning why I'm even trying.
account42 4y ago
> despite the KDE developers saying it wasn't ready yet. The KDE devs are the ones who decided to call the alpha version 4.0 so I wouldn't put all the blame on the distros here. I think the problem with KDE 4 was not just but also experimental technologies like Nepomuk (desktop search is great in theory, but an EU research project is probably not the best fit for a production DE), Akonadi (yay let's run a MySQL server on each desktop), Plasma widgets (if you thought one widget set was enough for a DE you thought wrong apparently) and Activities that just didn't provide enough value for the overhead and change that they forced onto the whole system. A more straightforward Qt4 upgrade of KDE 3 would not have been nearly as problematic.

snapplebobapple 4y ago

This was what pushed me off kde back in the day and started a multiple year odyssey through all the lesser desktops before ending up on lxde for a while. When lxde started to get left behind as they tried to port to lxqt with limited resources I took kde 5 for a whirl and it was like meeting back up with an old friend and I haven't bothered with anything else since except a brief foray into qtile (I see why people like tiling desktops but I also really think they are not good for anyone with a diverse and ever changing usage/workflow sitaution vs just autobooting kde with a few windows set to autostart in fixed locations).

robonerd 4y ago

KDE 4.0 was abysmal, so bad it seemed like deliberate sabotage, and it didn't get much better through 4.2. That's when I gave up on KDE for several years (until about a year or so ago.) Now I'm trying to like it again, all the right pieces seem to be in place, but the constant introduction of new bugs to basic functionality has me questioning why I'm even trying.

account42 4y ago

> despite the KDE developers saying it wasn't ready yet. The KDE devs are the ones who decided to call the alpha version 4.0 so I wouldn't put all the blame on the distros here. I think the problem with KDE 4 was not just but also experimental technologies like Nepomuk (desktop search is great in theory, but an EU research project is probably not the best fit for a production DE), Akonadi (yay let's run a MySQL server on each desktop), Plasma widgets (if you thought one widget set was enough for a DE you thought wrong apparently) and Activities that just didn't provide enough value for the overhead and change that they forced onto the whole system. A more straightforward Qt4 upgrade of KDE 3 would not have been nearly as problematic.