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Be rich. That's how you remain ambitious. If you're poor your best achievment in life is to simply hold a job and make the future better for your kids, and in

Be rich. That's how you remain ambitious. If you're poor your best achievment in life is to simply hold a job and make the future better for your kids, and in a few generations those ancestors will be able to follow their dreams. Statistically the poor are totally screwed from birth. By a huge margin. A very very few will be able to follow their dreams beyond holding a job but that's a statistical anomoly. The best most poor people can hope for is to get a job until you die. Almost every single rich person/ world mover you see was born with some natural talent or rich or upper middle class from birth with enough time/resources to develop some talent. If you're just working to survive your time and energy will be taken in exchange for money. Any b.s. self help hustle culture is nonsense. Be rich. Hard facts.

lexapro 4y ago
>in a few generations those ancestors will be able to follow their dreams Most likely no. Most likely they will be just as poor as you are, and have a job building the dreams of people with rich ancestors.
qgin 4y ago
Are they really facts? 8/10 current millionaires grew up middle class or lower. Most wealth is lost in 2 generations.
- edmcnulty101 4y ago
  Is your source: Just trust me bro, I heard it from my really smart uncle. According to actual research: Looking at larger moves, only 4% of those raised in the bottom quintile moved up to the top quintile as adults. There's other studies in there as well that all demonstrate intergenerational mobility is single digit percentile from bottom to the top meanwhile from middle and upper classes it's much more. It's much easier to move from bottom to middle class where you work as a drone for some rich person. This provides a platform for your kids to attempt to launch from in the next generation or two or three or four if ever. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_...
  - qgin 4y ago
    > Looking at larger moves, only 4% of those raised in the bottom quintile moved up to the top quintile as adults. Now you’re talking about a completely different topic than what we were talking about. The bottom quintiles are much bigger that the top ones. Even if the top quintile was made up 100% of people who started in the bottom ones, the percentage of people from the bottom who move up would still be small. What we started discussing was whether starting in the top is a near-requirement for staying in the top. I didn’t get get it from “trust me bro” fwiw. Here are a few sources to consider: https://www.ramseysolutions.com/retirement/the-national-study-of-millionaires-research https://www.ramseysolutions.com/retirement/the-national-stud... > The overwhelming majority (79%) of millionaires in the U.S. did not receive any inheritance at all from their parents or other family members. While 1 in 5 millionaires (21%) received some inheritance, only 3% received an inheritance of $1 million or more. > 8 out of 10 millionaires come from families at or below middle-income level.
    - edmcnulty101 4y ago
      Dave Ramsey studies. It’s a sampling of `self reported` people that are Ramsey listeners or in the Ramsey orbit. The study is not transparent. the data is not published for peer review. and the study is used to market Dave Ramsey products. Come on. Can you find some legitimate studies to support your view from say SCIENTISTS...other than a marketing and product shill website?
      - qgin 4y ago
        If you have better data on the subject we’re talking about, feel free to share it.
        edmcnulty101 4y ago
        I thought I did.

lexapro 4y ago

>in a few generations those ancestors will be able to follow their dreams Most likely no. Most likely they will be just as poor as you are, and have a job building the dreams of people with rich ancestors.

qgin 4y ago

Are they really facts? 8/10 current millionaires grew up middle class or lower. Most wealth is lost in 2 generations.

edmcnulty101 4y ago
Is your source: Just trust me bro, I heard it from my really smart uncle. According to actual research: Looking at larger moves, only 4% of those raised in the bottom quintile moved up to the top quintile as adults. There's other studies in there as well that all demonstrate intergenerational mobility is single digit percentile from bottom to the top meanwhile from middle and upper classes it's much more. It's much easier to move from bottom to middle class where you work as a drone for some rich person. This provides a platform for your kids to attempt to launch from in the next generation or two or three or four if ever. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_...
- qgin 4y ago
  > Looking at larger moves, only 4% of those raised in the bottom quintile moved up to the top quintile as adults. Now you’re talking about a completely different topic than what we were talking about. The bottom quintiles are much bigger that the top ones. Even if the top quintile was made up 100% of people who started in the bottom ones, the percentage of people from the bottom who move up would still be small. What we started discussing was whether starting in the top is a near-requirement for staying in the top. I didn’t get get it from “trust me bro” fwiw. Here are a few sources to consider: https://www.ramseysolutions.com/retirement/the-national-study-of-millionaires-research https://www.ramseysolutions.com/retirement/the-national-stud... > The overwhelming majority (79%) of millionaires in the U.S. did not receive any inheritance at all from their parents or other family members. While 1 in 5 millionaires (21%) received some inheritance, only 3% received an inheritance of $1 million or more. > 8 out of 10 millionaires come from families at or below middle-income level.
  - edmcnulty101 4y ago
    Dave Ramsey studies. It’s a sampling of `self reported` people that are Ramsey listeners or in the Ramsey orbit. The study is not transparent. the data is not published for peer review. and the study is used to market Dave Ramsey products. Come on. Can you find some legitimate studies to support your view from say SCIENTISTS...other than a marketing and product shill website?
    - qgin 4y ago
      If you have better data on the subject we’re talking about, feel free to share it.
      - edmcnulty101 4y ago
        I thought I did.