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I find the whole situation sad. I’ll admit the PGA tour was slow to change, but it is sad that Norman and his Saudi oil barons get to create the disruption. Cr

I find the whole situation sad. I’ll admit the PGA tour was slow to change, but it is sad that Norman and his Saudi oil barons get to create the disruption. Crazy how Mickelson was king of the PGA a year ago and has a tarnished legacy today. I really don’t see this improving the game of golf.

shkkmo 4y ago
How is his legacy tarnished? He didn't cheat, he didn't hurt anyone. All he did was play in some unsanctioned tournaments that a monoplist "non-profit" didn't like.
- jtmarl1n 4y ago
  It has to do with his quote about the Saudis while playing in their golf tourneys. Basically acknowledging all the bad things they are associated with and then shrugging his shoulders and taking the money. “They’re scary mother (expletives) to get involved with,” Mickelson told longtime golf writer Alan Shipnuck for an upcoming Mickelson biography. “We know they killed (reporter Jamal) Khashoggi and have a horrible record on human rights. They execute people over there for being gay."
  - shkkmo 4y ago
    Our government still sell them weapons without such clear condemnations, so if that statement tarnishes his reputation, what does that say about the rest of us (US citizens)?
    - mauvehaus 4y ago
      Considering the amount of oil the US imports from Saudi Arabia[0], I think we're all maybe a little more directly tarnished than by our elected officials allowing the sales of arms. [0] https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRIMUSSA2&f=M https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=M...
- francisofascii 4y ago
  Fair question. Currently he is in the PR doghouse, which is why he went dark and skipped the Masters and PGA. There is a sense that those that join the LIV tour get tossed on the "naughty" list, but maybe that notion will go away. It will be interesting to see how the crowds treat him at the US Open this week.
  - shkkmo 4y ago
    He skipped the masters, but the PGA suspended him because of LIV

shkkmo 4y ago

How is his legacy tarnished? He didn't cheat, he didn't hurt anyone. All he did was play in some unsanctioned tournaments that a monoplist "non-profit" didn't like.

jtmarl1n 4y ago
It has to do with his quote about the Saudis while playing in their golf tourneys. Basically acknowledging all the bad things they are associated with and then shrugging his shoulders and taking the money. “They’re scary mother (expletives) to get involved with,” Mickelson told longtime golf writer Alan Shipnuck for an upcoming Mickelson biography. “We know they killed (reporter Jamal) Khashoggi and have a horrible record on human rights. They execute people over there for being gay."
- shkkmo 4y ago
  Our government still sell them weapons without such clear condemnations, so if that statement tarnishes his reputation, what does that say about the rest of us (US citizens)?
  - mauvehaus 4y ago
    Considering the amount of oil the US imports from Saudi Arabia[0], I think we're all maybe a little more directly tarnished than by our elected officials allowing the sales of arms. [0] https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRIMUSSA2&f=M https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=M...
francisofascii 4y ago
Fair question. Currently he is in the PR doghouse, which is why he went dark and skipped the Masters and PGA. There is a sense that those that join the LIV tour get tossed on the "naughty" list, but maybe that notion will go away. It will be interesting to see how the crowds treat him at the US Open this week.
- shkkmo 4y ago
  He skipped the masters, but the PGA suspended him because of LIV