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This will only further entrench the big players (google, facebook, etc) while making it impossible for new & small players to compete. All of the services the b

This will only further entrench the big players (google, facebook, etc) while making it impossible for new & small players to compete. All of the services the big players offer effectively make working without universal cookies trivial. For the small players though, without massive ad-supported service offerings like Gmail, Facebook (as a platform), etc, this will screw them completely. Mind you, I'm a HUGE privacy advocate, so I like the new Firefox functionality... but the unintended side effects cannot be ignored.

ddtaylor 4y ago
Do we want anyone tracking us? I don't really care about the size of something that is tracking me - I care about the tracking itself.
rcMgD2BwE72F 4y ago
Firefox really needs to implement two features: 1. Cookie Auto-Delete (see https://github.com/Cookie-AutoDelete/Cookie-AutoDelete/wiki/Documentation https://github.com/Cookie-AutoDelete/Cookie-AutoDelete/wiki/...), where cookies and local data are automatically deleted some time after closing the tab. You can, of course, whitelist Websites to exclude them. 2. Firefox multi-container extension, to assign some websites (domains and subdomains) to a container by default so that you can visit some specific Google sites without being logged in (e.g Web search, News, Maps…) but still open Gmail and be connected to your account. You can make this more intuitive and combine that in a single button: "Do not forget. Optionally, open website in <container>". This would drastically level the playing field, as one can continue to use some Google/Apple services for work (e.g Play developers console, Google calendar…) but all visit to other properties would not be tracked. No need to switch between browsers, profiles or containers, this is automatic. I've been using this set up for years now, and it works perfectly – just add uBlock and I don't care about cookies, and you'll ever see an ad or a cookie prompt ever again. Perfect.
- pid-1 4y ago
  (1) totally exists, that's always how I configure all my FF installs. You also can add exceptions, although I don't use this feature.
  - ridgered4 4y ago
    Unless I'm missing something, this only triggers on browser close. I sort of agree with the proposed tab closer with timer trigger idea, since I almost never close the browser on my main machine.

ddtaylor 4y ago

Do we want anyone tracking us? I don't really care about the size of something that is tracking me - I care about the tracking itself.

rcMgD2BwE72F 4y ago

Firefox really needs to implement two features: 1. Cookie Auto-Delete (see https://github.com/Cookie-AutoDelete/Cookie-AutoDelete/wiki/Documentation https://github.com/Cookie-AutoDelete/Cookie-AutoDelete/wiki/...), where cookies and local data are automatically deleted some time after closing the tab. You can, of course, whitelist Websites to exclude them. 2. Firefox multi-container extension, to assign some websites (domains and subdomains) to a container by default so that you can visit some specific Google sites without being logged in (e.g Web search, News, Maps…) but still open Gmail and be connected to your account. You can make this more intuitive and combine that in a single button: "Do not forget. Optionally, open website in <container>". This would drastically level the playing field, as one can continue to use some Google/Apple services for work (e.g Play developers console, Google calendar…) but all visit to other properties would not be tracked. No need to switch between browsers, profiles or containers, this is automatic. I've been using this set up for years now, and it works perfectly – just add uBlock and I don't care about cookies, and you'll ever see an ad or a cookie prompt ever again. Perfect.

pid-1 4y ago
(1) totally exists, that's always how I configure all my FF installs. You also can add exceptions, although I don't use this feature.
- ridgered4 4y ago
  Unless I'm missing something, this only triggers on browser close. I sort of agree with the proposed tab closer with timer trigger idea, since I almost never close the browser on my main machine.