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Never heard this happen (Scandinavia) other than in the cases where an employee clearly breached laws or company policy. Standard procedure here is that you as

by Y-bar 4y ago

Never heard this happen (Scandinavia) other than in the cases where an employee clearly breached laws or company policy. Standard procedure here is that you as a salaried employee will be guaranteed 1-2-3 months (depending on your contract) of notice. Edit with example: https://www.arbeidstilsynet.no/en/working-conditions/dismissal-with-notice/ https://www.arbeidstilsynet.no/en/working-conditions/dismiss... > An employee may usually remain in the post as long as negotiations or legal proceedings are in progress, provided the courts have not decided otherwise. > [...] > The employer may summarily dismiss an employee if he or she is guilty of a gross breach of duty or other serious breach of the contract of employment. The employee has no right to remain in his post while the matter is being considered, unless the court has decided otherwise.

Symbiote 4y ago
Being paid for 1-3 months is entirely independent of whether they want you in the office or not. In Britain it's called gardening leave, and it's common in finance and other jobs with tight security. You are paid, but you stay and home and do some gardening. (Or, more likely, look for a new job.)
- Y-bar 4y ago
  I work with online payment processor and early during the covid pandemic we had some layoffs. They were all notices of 1+ month and everyone of them continued to work for the majority of the notice period. Nobody had anything revoked early. I understand it happens, but it seems _way_ too common (reading the comments here) compared to what is actually necessary.
- samhw 4y ago
  Yeah, I worked at a UK bank and was given gardening leave even when I left to start a (somewhat orthogonal) competitor. Actually, they didn't even insist that I served out my leave before starting work. It's an odd system.
dundarious 4y ago
A decent amount of states in the US have “at-will employment” laws, meaning you can be fired for any reason (excluding specific things to do with “protected classes” like race, etc.), at any time, with immediate effect and without any notice. Similarly, this means you can quit your job at any time, with immediate effect and without any notice. If you quit, it’s only if you want to maintain reputation or relationships that you should work a notice period, but given the asymmetry of employer-employee power, that ends up being pretty common. For at-will employment, I don’t think there needs to be any severance package or mandatory weeks of pay, but I think it’s offered in many cases. Having said that, in finance (I used to work at a proprietary trading firm in an at-will state), it’s extremely common for firings to be immediate, e.g., arrive at work, boss calls you to office, get fired, badge taken and you’re walked out and your desk belongings are mailed to you later. More often, you’re walked to your desk to pick up your things instead of having them mailed out, but both happen. But even more often, people are “incentivized” through bad reviews and bad bonuses to quit in advance of a firing. When I quit, they didn’t want me to leave, and I negotiated a couple weeks of notice to hand over my responsibilities and knowledge, and to maintain some relationships. I had a non-compete in my original contract, so I would have to negotiate with the original firm as to whether they would enforce it. If so, I would receive gardening leave pay in order to delay my employment at a competing firm. That could be for as much as 2 years, and they would pay my base salary at the original firm in order for me to not start at the competition. This gardening leave is totally different than a severance package though.

by Y-bar 4y ago

Symbiote 4y ago

Being paid for 1-3 months is entirely independent of whether they want you in the office or not. In Britain it's called gardening leave, and it's common in finance and other jobs with tight security. You are paid, but you stay and home and do some gardening. (Or, more likely, look for a new job.)

Y-bar 4y ago
I work with online payment processor and early during the covid pandemic we had some layoffs. They were all notices of 1+ month and everyone of them continued to work for the majority of the notice period. Nobody had anything revoked early. I understand it happens, but it seems _way_ too common (reading the comments here) compared to what is actually necessary.
samhw 4y ago
Yeah, I worked at a UK bank and was given gardening leave even when I left to start a (somewhat orthogonal) competitor. Actually, they didn't even insist that I served out my leave before starting work. It's an odd system.

dundarious 4y ago

A decent amount of states in the US have “at-will employment” laws, meaning you can be fired for any reason (excluding specific things to do with “protected classes” like race, etc.), at any time, with immediate effect and without any notice. Similarly, this means you can quit your job at any time, with immediate effect and without any notice. If you quit, it’s only if you want to maintain reputation or relationships that you should work a notice period, but given the asymmetry of employer-employee power, that ends up being pretty common. For at-will employment, I don’t think there needs to be any severance package or mandatory weeks of pay, but I think it’s offered in many cases. Having said that, in finance (I used to work at a proprietary trading firm in an at-will state), it’s extremely common for firings to be immediate, e.g., arrive at work, boss calls you to office, get fired, badge taken and you’re walked out and your desk belongings are mailed to you later. More often, you’re walked to your desk to pick up your things instead of having them mailed out, but both happen. But even more often, people are “incentivized” through bad reviews and bad bonuses to quit in advance of a firing. When I quit, they didn’t want me to leave, and I negotiated a couple weeks of notice to hand over my responsibilities and knowledge, and to maintain some relationships. I had a non-compete in my original contract, so I would have to negotiate with the original firm as to whether they would enforce it. If so, I would receive gardening leave pay in order to delay my employment at a competing firm. That could be for as much as 2 years, and they would pay my base salary at the original firm in order for me to not start at the competition. This gardening leave is totally different than a severance package though.