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So, you don't get money for free?

krapp 4y ago
I was assured this lunch and all future lunches would be on the house!
SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
The banks did get free money in 2008. Some were conned into thinking that this time, the grift would work for them. This is why they say "you can't cheat an honest man"
- Banana699 4y ago
  Victim blaming is not cool. Everyone is ignorant about something or the other, it just so happens through that man's bad luck that he is ignorant about a technology that scammers found attractive. Thank your luck but don't blame others for their bad luck.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
    I think that it's possible to talk about how setting bad examples can have unintended consequences later on, and it's not always "victim blaming". In fact it can be the opposite.
- deleted 4y ago
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- nicbou 4y ago
  Didn't they pay it back?
  - roflyear 4y ago
    Yeah the government made money on those plans IIRC
- synu 4y ago
  Do you mean TARP? That was paid back. The government didn't really make a profit (the revenue generated in addition to the repayments was less than inflation) but there didn't really end up being any free money except in the short term. And that was the point, of course.
- technothrasher 4y ago
  > This is why they say "you can't cheat an honest man" W. C. Fields was joking when he wrote that line. His con man character, when caught, was attempting to blame his mark for having been cheated.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
    And yet it has a useful definition here: https://www.quora.com/What-does-you-cant-cheat-an-honest-man-mean https://www.quora.com/What-does-you-cant-cheat-an-honest-man... > Grifters/con men often prey on people who want to make a quick/easy buck
    - technothrasher 4y ago
      W.C. Fields was a comedic genius, and brilliantly hid a lot of biting satire in overly obvious slapstick. He is so unfortunately forgotten today. The film "You Can't Cheat an Honest Man" is 83 years old, and people still don't know what he was saying. I suspect he would have found it hilarious that his line is so thoroughly misunderstood.
    - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
      "want[ing] to make a quick/easy buck" is orthogonal to honesty
snowwrestler 4y ago
I did? I bought some Apple stock in 2009 and still own it. I got some money for free since then—not just the (considerable) appreciation; AAPL also pays a dividend. The difference between that and a crypto scam is obvious to me, or at least it has been so far. But that is because I chose to put a lot of work into understanding all this stuff. Not everyone has; that should not cost them their life’s savings.
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  That is not money for free.
  - rabuse 4y ago
    Literally in the same fashion as described. "I put money in something, and made more with no effort."
formerkrogemp 4y ago
Sure, just collect rent.

I was assured this lunch and all future lunches would be on the house!

The banks did get free money in 2008. Some were conned into thinking that this time, the grift would work for them. This is why they say "you can't cheat an honest man"

Banana699 4y ago
Victim blaming is not cool. Everyone is ignorant about something or the other, it just so happens through that man's bad luck that he is ignorant about a technology that scammers found attractive. Thank your luck but don't blame others for their bad luck.
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  I think that it's possible to talk about how setting bad examples can have unintended consequences later on, and it's not always "victim blaming". In fact it can be the opposite.
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nicbou 4y ago
Didn't they pay it back?
- roflyear 4y ago
  Yeah the government made money on those plans IIRC
synu 4y ago
Do you mean TARP? That was paid back. The government didn't really make a profit (the revenue generated in addition to the repayments was less than inflation) but there didn't really end up being any free money except in the short term. And that was the point, of course.
technothrasher 4y ago
> This is why they say "you can't cheat an honest man" W. C. Fields was joking when he wrote that line. His con man character, when caught, was attempting to blame his mark for having been cheated.
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  And yet it has a useful definition here: https://www.quora.com/What-does-you-cant-cheat-an-honest-man-mean https://www.quora.com/What-does-you-cant-cheat-an-honest-man... > Grifters/con men often prey on people who want to make a quick/easy buck
  - technothrasher 4y ago
    W.C. Fields was a comedic genius, and brilliantly hid a lot of biting satire in overly obvious slapstick. He is so unfortunately forgotten today. The film "You Can't Cheat an Honest Man" is 83 years old, and people still don't know what he was saying. I suspect he would have found it hilarious that his line is so thoroughly misunderstood.
  - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
    "want[ing] to make a quick/easy buck" is orthogonal to honesty

snowwrestler 4y ago

I did? I bought some Apple stock in 2009 and still own it. I got some money for free since then—not just the (considerable) appreciation; AAPL also pays a dividend. The difference between that and a crypto scam is obvious to me, or at least it has been so far. But that is because I chose to put a lot of work into understanding all this stuff. Not everyone has; that should not cost them their life’s savings.

quickthrower2 4y ago
That is not money for free.
- rabuse 4y ago
  Literally in the same fashion as described. "I put money in something, and made more with no effort."

formerkrogemp 4y ago

Sure, just collect rent.