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Who exactly in the cabinet is far right? Truss, Sunak, Javid, Raab and the rest hardly come across as the right wing mob. Rees-Mogg is the only one who maybe co

Who exactly in the cabinet is far right? Truss, Sunak, Javid, Raab and the rest hardly come across as the right wing mob. Rees-Mogg is the only one who maybe comes remotely close and he’s got one of the most minor positions.

scott_w 4y ago
Truss is moving to break a treaty to appease the far right nutters in her party. Javid, as Home Secretary, stripped a teenager of her British citizenship, leaving her stateless and stranded somewhere in Iraq or Syria.
- Veen 4y ago
  The teenager is a terrorist sympathiser who left the UK to join Isis. And she isn’t a teenager any more.
  - scott_w 4y ago
    Irrespective of what she may or may not have done, her citizenship was stripped on flimsy legal pretexts to satisfy their racist supporters.
    - Veen 4y ago
      That's total bollocks.
- forgingahead 4y ago
  For those reading along, the "teenager" being referenced is Shamima Begum, who ran away from home when she was 15 to allegedly join ISIS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamima_Begum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamima_Begum There's an interesting discussion to be had about whether a government official can strip someone of their citizenship (even though in the UK it seems to be part of their powers under the Nationality Act) - it's not correct to frame this emotionally under "deported a teenager" when there are specific issues at play here. Same with slandering anyone who is not politically aligned with you as "far right".
  - scott_w 4y ago
    I didn’t say he deported a teenager. I said he stripped her citizenship, leaving her stateless to die in service of appealing to racists to vote Tory.
- rayiner 4y ago
  If I’m thinking of the same person, she’s ethnically Bangladeshi. But Bangladesh wouldn’t let her back in the country even though it has a right of return for people of Bangladeshi ethnicity: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/bangladesh-will-not-accept-isis-girl-shamima-begum/1735373 https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/bangladesh-will-not-ac... Bangladesh is an officially socialist country. You’re just defining “far right” to include everyone who disagrees with a narrow view of immigration. Regarding your sibling comment: is Bangladesh “racist” against Bangladeshis for not taking her? What an absurd smear.
  - scott_w 4y ago
    I never said Javid was a racist, I said the policy to deport black and brown refugees to Rwanda, while not treating Ukrainian refugees the same way was racist. This should be self-evident by just looking at the facts. You’re making another false equivalence with Bangladesh when Begum was born and raised in the U.K. and had never been to Bangladesh. And then trying to use that in bad faith to insinuate things I never said.
    - rayiner 4y ago
      In a sibling comment you said he was “appealing to racists” by blocking Begum’s return. My question is whether Bangladeshis are racists for the same reason? And it’s not a false equivalence. Bangladesh has special rules for return of children of people of Bangladeshi origin. My brother was born in Virginia but could travel back to Bangladesh without meeting the usual immigration conditions by showing proof of our parent’s birth in Bangladesh. Begum was in the same position. But Bangladesh isn’t as sympathetic to terrorists as some folks in the UK.

scott_w 4y ago

Truss is moving to break a treaty to appease the far right nutters in her party. Javid, as Home Secretary, stripped a teenager of her British citizenship, leaving her stateless and stranded somewhere in Iraq or Syria.

Veen 4y ago
The teenager is a terrorist sympathiser who left the UK to join Isis. And she isn’t a teenager any more.
- scott_w 4y ago
  Irrespective of what she may or may not have done, her citizenship was stripped on flimsy legal pretexts to satisfy their racist supporters.
  - Veen 4y ago
    That's total bollocks.
forgingahead 4y ago
For those reading along, the "teenager" being referenced is Shamima Begum, who ran away from home when she was 15 to allegedly join ISIS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamima_Begum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamima_Begum There's an interesting discussion to be had about whether a government official can strip someone of their citizenship (even though in the UK it seems to be part of their powers under the Nationality Act) - it's not correct to frame this emotionally under "deported a teenager" when there are specific issues at play here. Same with slandering anyone who is not politically aligned with you as "far right".
- scott_w 4y ago
  I didn’t say he deported a teenager. I said he stripped her citizenship, leaving her stateless to die in service of appealing to racists to vote Tory.
rayiner 4y ago
If I’m thinking of the same person, she’s ethnically Bangladeshi. But Bangladesh wouldn’t let her back in the country even though it has a right of return for people of Bangladeshi ethnicity: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/bangladesh-will-not-accept-isis-girl-shamima-begum/1735373 https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/bangladesh-will-not-ac... Bangladesh is an officially socialist country. You’re just defining “far right” to include everyone who disagrees with a narrow view of immigration. Regarding your sibling comment: is Bangladesh “racist” against Bangladeshis for not taking her? What an absurd smear.
- scott_w 4y ago
  I never said Javid was a racist, I said the policy to deport black and brown refugees to Rwanda, while not treating Ukrainian refugees the same way was racist. This should be self-evident by just looking at the facts. You’re making another false equivalence with Bangladesh when Begum was born and raised in the U.K. and had never been to Bangladesh. And then trying to use that in bad faith to insinuate things I never said.
  - rayiner 4y ago
    In a sibling comment you said he was “appealing to racists” by blocking Begum’s return. My question is whether Bangladeshis are racists for the same reason? And it’s not a false equivalence. Bangladesh has special rules for return of children of people of Bangladeshi origin. My brother was born in Virginia but could travel back to Bangladesh without meeting the usual immigration conditions by showing proof of our parent’s birth in Bangladesh. Begum was in the same position. But Bangladesh isn’t as sympathetic to terrorists as some folks in the UK.