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In what world is a 2 hour battery life laptop better than a laptop with a 20 hour battery and amazing performance? The OS is perfectly fine.

abrouwers 4y ago
Just to clarify, it seems that most people are getting much more than 2hr on their framework - are you referring to something else?
mulmen 4y ago
The world where I haven’t been on battery for more than an hour in years but I fight with the OS daily. Battery life is more a hardware concern than software anyway.
djvdq 4y ago
Is battery only thing that you think is better on Mac so you mentioned only this one thing? Lol. I'm really considering getting new Air with M2 but man, battery is one of the last things to compare. It's _nice_ to have long battery life but it definitely not killer feature by any means
- Jcowell 4y ago
  If it’s a laptop battery life should be the first thing to compare. The ability to be anywhere and not worry about battery life seems like THE #1 most important aspect.
  - tambourine_man 4y ago
    It used to be, but these days laptops are the new desktops. Almost no one buys desktops anymore, even though they are obviously a better choice in many regards, including ergonomics, if the thing is to be strapped to a desk 100% of the time.
    - samatman 4y ago
      Because as soon as that 100% becomes a reasonable number like 98%, a laptop is your only choice. The market for desktop computers is a market for people who also own laptops, with very few exceptions (mostly gamers).
      - tambourine_man 4y ago
        The 98% would probably be better served with a very light with great battery laptop and beefy, quiet, large screen and good keyboard, desktop but instead end up buying something that's not great for either use case.
    - pessimizer 4y ago
      The batteries on my laptops are pragmatically just a UPS. The time between occasions that I need to use my laptop on the hoof (for more than "two hours") is so long that the age of the battery is a far bigger factor to consider than the software being run. I don't loiter at coffee shops unless I'm on a date, and libraries/offices/hotels have outlets. Speaking of UPSes, I wish that desktops/servers would just chuck a laptop battery socket on the back. Batteries are the only real difference between desktops and laptops, and desktops need them nearly as much as laptops do.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    It's a desktop operating system. The software itself doesn't have a very robust impact on battery life.
  - abrouwers 4y ago
    Personally, I have a minimum expectation, but beyond that, it moves a lot lower on my priority list, too. I wouldn't accept 2 hours, but once something hits 5-6, it's usually GoodEnough for my case (though, I'm not OP). Of course, I would love 20hr, but the OS, etc. starts to become more important at some point.

abrouwers 4y ago

Just to clarify, it seems that most people are getting much more than 2hr on their framework - are you referring to something else?

mulmen 4y ago

The world where I haven’t been on battery for more than an hour in years but I fight with the OS daily. Battery life is more a hardware concern than software anyway.

djvdq 4y ago

Is battery only thing that you think is better on Mac so you mentioned only this one thing? Lol. I'm really considering getting new Air with M2 but man, battery is one of the last things to compare. It's _nice_ to have long battery life but it definitely not killer feature by any means

Jcowell 4y ago
If it’s a laptop battery life should be the first thing to compare. The ability to be anywhere and not worry about battery life seems like THE #1 most important aspect.
- tambourine_man 4y ago
  It used to be, but these days laptops are the new desktops. Almost no one buys desktops anymore, even though they are obviously a better choice in many regards, including ergonomics, if the thing is to be strapped to a desk 100% of the time.
  - samatman 4y ago
    Because as soon as that 100% becomes a reasonable number like 98%, a laptop is your only choice. The market for desktop computers is a market for people who also own laptops, with very few exceptions (mostly gamers).
    - tambourine_man 4y ago
      The 98% would probably be better served with a very light with great battery laptop and beefy, quiet, large screen and good keyboard, desktop but instead end up buying something that's not great for either use case.
  - pessimizer 4y ago
    The batteries on my laptops are pragmatically just a UPS. The time between occasions that I need to use my laptop on the hoof (for more than "two hours") is so long that the age of the battery is a far bigger factor to consider than the software being run. I don't loiter at coffee shops unless I'm on a date, and libraries/offices/hotels have outlets. Speaking of UPSes, I wish that desktops/servers would just chuck a laptop battery socket on the back. Batteries are the only real difference between desktops and laptops, and desktops need them nearly as much as laptops do.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  It's a desktop operating system. The software itself doesn't have a very robust impact on battery life.
- abrouwers 4y ago
  Personally, I have a minimum expectation, but beyond that, it moves a lot lower on my priority list, too. I wouldn't accept 2 hours, but once something hits 5-6, it's usually GoodEnough for my case (though, I'm not OP). Of course, I would love 20hr, but the OS, etc. starts to become more important at some point.