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Amazon accused the union of illegal intimidation of voters, why would you immediately trust one side in the matter? Unions and corruption/illegal conduct, afte

by 0xy 4y ago

Amazon accused the union of illegal intimidation of voters, why would you immediately trust one side in the matter? Unions and corruption/illegal conduct, after all, go hand-in-hand. Consider the fact the RWDSU was caught illegally intimidating workers into signing up to them in order to extract fees, earning them a rebuke from the NLRB. [1] So, if the retail unions targeting Amazon have such a history of illegal intimidation, and Amazon is alleging it's happening yet again, why shouldn't they be believed? These unions have shown they'll intimidate and operate illegally to achieve their goals. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retail,_Wholesale_and_Department_Store_Union#Merger_with_UFCW_(1990s_to_present) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retail,_Wholesale_and_Departme...

GoodJokes 4y ago
effingwewt 4y ago
The union may turn out bad/corrupt, but we already know that Amazon already is. The previous behavior of the company is all the reason one should need to scrutinize anything they say/do with a magnifying glass and to never give Amazon the benefit of the doubt. That was forfeited by them long ago.
- jseban 4y ago
  The difference is that amazon is driving innovation which enables you to stay competitive. Unions cause stagnation which will lead to being outcompeted in the long term, even if you could argue a more peaceful existence in the short/medium term, you are just putting on blinders.
- native_samples 4y ago
  Words like "corrupt" have pretty specific meanings. Amazon doesn't rise to that level, not even close. Even "bad" is a very debatable thing - obviously its customers don't think so. Unions that are outright threatening or bribing people to break a vote, though. That's an unambiguous use of the word corruption.
hjanssen 4y ago
Companys have shown time and time again that they are not to be trusted. Especially Amazon has not been in the news so much because the working conditions are so good, remind you. It is in my opinion totally a legit view to first believe the workers. History has shown that corruption and lawbreaking are many magnitudes more prevalent in corporations than unions.

by 0xy 4y ago

GoodJokes 4y ago

effingwewt 4y ago

The union may turn out bad/corrupt, but we already know that Amazon already is. The previous behavior of the company is all the reason one should need to scrutinize anything they say/do with a magnifying glass and to never give Amazon the benefit of the doubt. That was forfeited by them long ago.

jseban 4y ago
The difference is that amazon is driving innovation which enables you to stay competitive. Unions cause stagnation which will lead to being outcompeted in the long term, even if you could argue a more peaceful existence in the short/medium term, you are just putting on blinders.
native_samples 4y ago
Words like "corrupt" have pretty specific meanings. Amazon doesn't rise to that level, not even close. Even "bad" is a very debatable thing - obviously its customers don't think so. Unions that are outright threatening or bribing people to break a vote, though. That's an unambiguous use of the word corruption.

hjanssen 4y ago

Companys have shown time and time again that they are not to be trusted. Especially Amazon has not been in the news so much because the working conditions are so good, remind you. It is in my opinion totally a legit view to first believe the workers. History has shown that corruption and lawbreaking are many magnitudes more prevalent in corporations than unions.