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Not to speak for the person you responded to, but in context they were saying that union organizers are also employees. Unions do hire organizers, too, no doubt

Not to speak for the person you responded to, but in context they were saying that union organizers are also employees. Unions do hire organizers, too, no doubt. But it's the organizing committee (made up of employees) that generally does the most important work. It was almost certainly meant to be IN CONTRAST to Proud Boys. Edit: apparently not, see below!

eyelidlessness 4y ago
I appreciate your charitable reading, and the better point it makes. I was in fact saying that a lot of Proud Boys are employed by Amazon, and that I doubt Amazon would particularly care about PB demonstrations. And of course I can’t answer GP with proof of that, quite a lot of the group operates with aliases. But I live in the company town and people get to know each other. That said, again your point is much more salient.
- oh_sigh 4y ago
  Any reason you think Amazon would not care about PB demonstrations? Why are these groups operating in secret if they're supported by Amazon? What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. This is like saying that Taco Bell employs racists. Yes, undoubtedly it does, because 200,000 people work for taco bell and at least some of them are bound to be racist. But how exactly are you going from that fact, to the idea that Taco Bell condones racists?
  - eyelidlessness 4y ago
    > Any reason you think Amazon would not care about PB demonstrations? Yes. > Why are these groups operating in secret if they're supported by Amazon? I’m not saying they’re supported, to be clear. As to why they operate in secret, to the extent they do: they’re fascists. That’s somewhat more socially acceptable today than it was 20 years ago, but still generally frowned upon to admit outright. > What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. Come stand out on the streets in company town and get to know some of the locals, I guess? > This is like saying that Taco Bell employs racists. Yes, undoubtedly it does, because 200,000 people work for taco bell and at least some of them are bound to be racist. But how exactly are you going from that fact, to the idea that Taco Bell condones racists? A fair point. I can’t tell you how many Taco Bell employees are also fascists, it’s bound to be greater than zero. I can say that the proportion of highly organized fascists are generally not slinging fast food.
    - oh_sigh 4y ago
      > Yes Go ahead and share your reasons then please. > I can say that the proportion of highly organized fascists are generally not slinging fast food. Instead, they're slinging boxes in fulfillment centers? I'm sorry, I just don't believe you. There are clearly racists and fascists working for Amazon, due to the sheer size of it, but to suggest that Amazon would protect them is ridiculous.

eyelidlessness 4y ago

I appreciate your charitable reading, and the better point it makes. I was in fact saying that a lot of Proud Boys are employed by Amazon, and that I doubt Amazon would particularly care about PB demonstrations. And of course I can’t answer GP with proof of that, quite a lot of the group operates with aliases. But I live in the company town and people get to know each other. That said, again your point is much more salient.

oh_sigh 4y ago
Any reason you think Amazon would not care about PB demonstrations? Why are these groups operating in secret if they're supported by Amazon? What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. This is like saying that Taco Bell employs racists. Yes, undoubtedly it does, because 200,000 people work for taco bell and at least some of them are bound to be racist. But how exactly are you going from that fact, to the idea that Taco Bell condones racists?
- eyelidlessness 4y ago
  > Any reason you think Amazon would not care about PB demonstrations? Yes. > Why are these groups operating in secret if they're supported by Amazon? I’m not saying they’re supported, to be clear. As to why they operate in secret, to the extent they do: they’re fascists. That’s somewhat more socially acceptable today than it was 20 years ago, but still generally frowned upon to admit outright. > What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. Come stand out on the streets in company town and get to know some of the locals, I guess? > This is like saying that Taco Bell employs racists. Yes, undoubtedly it does, because 200,000 people work for taco bell and at least some of them are bound to be racist. But how exactly are you going from that fact, to the idea that Taco Bell condones racists? A fair point. I can’t tell you how many Taco Bell employees are also fascists, it’s bound to be greater than zero. I can say that the proportion of highly organized fascists are generally not slinging fast food.
  - oh_sigh 4y ago
    > Yes Go ahead and share your reasons then please. > I can say that the proportion of highly organized fascists are generally not slinging fast food. Instead, they're slinging boxes in fulfillment centers? I'm sorry, I just don't believe you. There are clearly racists and fascists working for Amazon, due to the sheer size of it, but to suggest that Amazon would protect them is ridiculous.