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Well, the optometrists I know seem to think this explanation doesn't make sense.
by epgui 4y ago
Well, the optometrists I know seem to think this explanation doesn't make sense.
- User23 4y agoWhy is that? Also what do you mean “seem to?” They do or they don’t, right? Have they not actually told you what they think?
- epgui 4y agoI'm modulating my language simply because I don't have a firm grasp on expert consensus, I only have a handful of optometrist friends, and I usually like to defer to consensus. I'm not sure why you'd think they wouldn't be honest with me: you should assume good faith.
- User23 4y agoI am assuming good faith. I wouldn’t ask you why they believe that if I didn’t. Incidentally you didn’t answer my question: “why is that?”
- epgui 4y agoI thought I did answer it with my first paragraph, but if that still seems odd to you we can probably chalk it up to English as a second language or to a misunderstanding.
- kafkaesque 4y agoOptometrists are not medical doctors. It's better to consult ophthalmologists (plural) on this. They are better educated and the ones that actually do all the hands-on work on your eyes
- epgui 4y agoI know that. But technically, optometrists have a "professional doctorate" in optometry ("doctor of optometry" or OD), just like doctors have a "professional doctorate" in medicine ("doctor in medicine" or MD). Neither MDs nor ODs are traditional doctors, which is what you would traditionally call someone with a PhD, and not someone who takes care of your health. I just don't happen to know any ophtalmologists, or anyone with a PhD who specializes in this, and in any case a good optometrist has overlapping expertise and concerns with ophtalmology and current research. Take it for what it's worth, no more, no less.
- the_d3f4ult 4y agoI'm an ophthalmologist. Optometrist are very well educated and very competent. They tend to be better at things optics related like refractions, contact lens fitting, etc. and are perfectly capable of managing bread-and-butter medical ophthalmic issues. Ophthalmologists tend to be better at complex medical management, especially when there are systemic manifestations and own anything requiring surgical intervention. Optometrists do a 4-year doctorate. Ophthalmologists do a 4-year MD that includes the full spectrum of medical training (gen surg, ob-gyn, neurology, etc.) and then a 1 + 3 residency that includes 1 year of general medicine or surgery and 3 years of medical and surgical ophthalmology. There are, of course, optometrists who are very good at medical management and ophthalmologists that are very good at refractive issues (e.g. refractive surgeons). We mostly work cooperatively although things occasionally get spicy. I I enjoy working with and learning from my optometrist colleagues. I go to an optometrist friend when I need a refraction and an ophthalmologist friend for my annual.
- epgui 4y agoPS.: ophtalmology residency candidates compete for an absurdly small number of seats in Canada/US, so an ophtalmologist’s opinion on optometrists should be weighed relatively heavily (they’re very smart folks). Commenter is being very humble.
- User23 4y agoImagine doing surgery on a pile of wet tissue paper is how I’ve heard retinal surgery described. I’m no expert, but I’d bet it’s even more challenging than most brain surgeries.