> The narrative is that there's simultaneously too many engineers coming out of school and yet it's extraordinarily difficult to hire engineers. Which is it?

> The narrative is that there's simultaneously too many engineers coming out of school and yet it's extraordinarily difficult to hire engineers. Which is it? It's both. You need to be a large company to hire junior talent. The local market is mostly startups without well-developed production guardrails and well-gardened, too long backlogs. The large companies cherry-pick for the relatively few junior positions that open and they aren't using Ruby internally. Thus the Ruby ecosystem hasn't developed here. > but there seems to actually be a lot of interest on HN in working with boring-tech at either nontech companies or BigCo. HN trends senior talent which has been around the bloc enough times to know that stacks change and people don't. Most of the labor market comes into interviews and want to impress you with how many languages they know.