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Please ban free parking, too!
by dotcoma 4y ago
Please ban free parking, too!
- usrn 4y agoI can understand not requiring it but if someone wants to provide free parking they should be allowed to.
- yakak 4y agoEstablishments need to itemize how much free parking is adding to the cost of each meal or other product/service purchase so that non-drivers, carpoolers, etc, can fully appreciate how much they are losing to pinkos like the AAA.
- bombcar 4y agoFree street parking vs free lot parking are two different things, but I can certainly see the arguments around both.
- jabroni_salad 4y agoSure, if you want to build and maintain your own parking lot on your taxed land that is cool. Street parking should endeavor to be at least cost-neutral though, and free just means that taxpayers are subsidizing it.
- mnd999 4y agoThis has already happened in my area. If you want to park on the street you now have to pay £120 / year extra to the council. Edit: That’s not an allocated space, that’s just to park somewhere on the street, maybe, if there is a space available.
- gpm 4y agoThat's just not providing free parking. Banning it would be disallowing malls, stores, gas stations (heh) etc from providing parking without charging for it.
- marvin 4y agoThis is currently a hot potato in Norway. The local government wants to force malls to charge for their parking at rates to be decided by the government, but aren't allowed due to national regulation. So there is a political battle to determine whether the law will be changed to allow it. The malls aren't at all happy about it, of course.
- mitchdoogle 4y agoCan't the government just levy a tax per parking spot?
- AdrianB1 4y agoThat is very cheap, if you want to rent a similar sized piece of land in the same place it costs orders of magnitude more. Just think about how much a restaurant with some tables on the sidewalk is paying.
- Fatnino 4y agoMost of them are paying nothing. They got that space for free during covid and cities haven't taken it back yet.
- bojangleslover 4y agoMy council was incredibly fast to raise this for inflation. Literally back in March, they raised it from £100 to £107. Greedy.
- mtoner23 4y agoThat is a really cheap price for public land
- countvonbalzac 4y agoI want my city to do this, because it will mean that people won't just store their unused cars on the streets, which means that it will be much easier for people who actually live here to park.
- Ekaros 4y agoI think all road use should require some type of fee and maybe tracking. Why should people using cars be subsidising the pedestrians and bikers by huge amounts of money. They should pay for their own roads.
- mnd999 4y agoYou want the government to track you everywhere you go? What could possibly go wrong with that?
- Ekaros 4y agoIsn't that small price to pay for everyone paying their fair share and not free loading on others?
- mnd999 4y agoFrankly, no.
- function_seven 4y agoWell, it's a price. Definitely not a small one. I'll pay more and subsidize freeloaders rather than increase government tabs on me.
- wbsss4412 4y agoIf that’s the case, car users should be paying _more_. Pedestrian and bike infrastructure is peanuts in comparison to the investment and ongoing maintenance costs that car infrastructure requires.
- Beltalowda 4y agoI genuinely can't tell if you're being serious or just taking the piss. If you're taking the piss: lol, pretty funny. If you're serious: lol, pretty funny.
- corrral 4y agoWear from bikes and pedestrians is too small to be worth metering. You'd spend more on tracking and enforcement than it costs. It's true that automobile use-in-terms-of-road-wear taxes would look very different from what they are now. A compact ICE car's total tax burden would drop to almost nothing. Ditto motorcycles. Truck and large SUV taxes would increase significantly. 18-wheelers would see enormous tax increases (road shipping is effectively heavily subsidized, now).
- Lendal 4y agoYou can defeat this law by detailing everything you're giving away for free including parking, ketchup packets, napkins, EV charging, etc.. Then it will become just some extra government-mandated printing that nobody reads, like the stuff they print on the receipt asking you to go online and fill out a survey.
- mitchdoogle 4y agoI usually look at the survey offer. If it's good enough value to me, I'll do their survey
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- cardiffspaceman 4y agoI think that with enough spaces disbursed evenly enough, this would actually be good. And I love to drive and park. Technically if you park in the supermarket free parking, you can't leave your car there while you pop in to the bar around the corner. Instead you're supposed to move the car to the bar's parking. If the parking was independent of either business, you could park once and visit as many businesses as you cared to walk to from your car.