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I think everyone knows that "diet" in a product name means it's healthier than the non-diet product. It also does help with your health if you were going to co

I think everyone knows that "diet" in a product name means it's healthier than the non-diet product. It also does help with your health if you were going to consume the non-diet version of that product in similar quantities.

rr888 4y ago
> I think everyone knows that "diet" in a product name means it's healthier than the non-diet product. Disagree with this. Its marketing BS to focus on one diet optimization usually at the expense of something else.
- shadowofneptune 4y ago
  What would be the something else? There are occasional studies that may indicate health risks associated with diet soda, but as best as I can tell they are not really conclusive. The health issues with consuming large amounts of refined sugar on the other hand are concrete and very well documented. Dental caries, increased likelihood of developing diabetes mellitus, etc.
  - rr888 4y ago
    The real solution is you should be drinking water or tea instead of Sode. Diet soda sounds equally healthy but keeps your palette wanting sweet.
  - culi 4y ago
    It's true that refined sugar has been very clearly proven to be associated with terrible consequences to your health. But most of the sugar substitutes used in "diet" products simply don't have those warnings because they're just newer and less studied. But there's been a lot of recent research showing just how bad these artificial sweeteners can be even in small amounts. Some studies have even shown long-lasting and intergenerational effects on the gut microbiome[0] and increased cancer risks.[1] The impacts on the gut microbiome[2] are particularly worrying to me. Many of these sweeteners love to sit in your gut for a while and can lead to really weird microbiome makeups and possibly even be a risk factor for diabetes and/or metabolic syndromes [0] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2021.795848/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2021.79584... [1] https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003950 https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo... [2] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25231862/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25231862/ More reading: - https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030 https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-su... - https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003950 https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo...
    - popcube 4y ago
      what is wrong here? your citation looks ok and new... get down vote
saiya-jin 4y ago
Aspartame which is often used for 'diet' drinks is rather crappy chemical stuff you really shouldn't be putting in your body in the first place. People feel they are doing something for their health when its really not the case since they still remain well within the junkfood category (something akin to using denser filter in cigarettes - less big particles may well mean finer stuff is kept in lungs for longer, and travels deeper)
m463 4y ago
IHMO you are confusing product marketing with good health advice. Marketing is just a legal way to tell only the good side of a story. "low-fat" usually means sugar. "sugar free" usually means artificial sweeteners (or something made without sugar anyway). Even "no added sugar" is suspect. What I've found hilarious is the new "KETO!" marketing craze. I really suspect that most of these products will not induce or maintain ketosis. (the actual health impact of ketosis is not clear to me anyway)
- gigaflop 4y ago
  A ketogenic diet is ultra-low-carb, to the point where your body enters ketosis, and becomes much more amenable to burning your fat reserves for energy. Essentially, keto-friendly means very low carb/sugar.
  - m463 4y ago
    But if you go to costco, and browse the "keto" section, I have doubts that the products (mostly dessert/snack products) are really keto-friendly. "keto crackers", "keto bombs", "keto clusters", "mini cookies", "keto cups", etc... I suspect they must be sharply constrained in serving size

rr888 4y ago

> I think everyone knows that "diet" in a product name means it's healthier than the non-diet product. Disagree with this. Its marketing BS to focus on one diet optimization usually at the expense of something else.

shadowofneptune 4y ago
What would be the something else? There are occasional studies that may indicate health risks associated with diet soda, but as best as I can tell they are not really conclusive. The health issues with consuming large amounts of refined sugar on the other hand are concrete and very well documented. Dental caries, increased likelihood of developing diabetes mellitus, etc.
- rr888 4y ago
  The real solution is you should be drinking water or tea instead of Sode. Diet soda sounds equally healthy but keeps your palette wanting sweet.
- culi 4y ago
  It's true that refined sugar has been very clearly proven to be associated with terrible consequences to your health. But most of the sugar substitutes used in "diet" products simply don't have those warnings because they're just newer and less studied. But there's been a lot of recent research showing just how bad these artificial sweeteners can be even in small amounts. Some studies have even shown long-lasting and intergenerational effects on the gut microbiome[0] and increased cancer risks.[1] The impacts on the gut microbiome[2] are particularly worrying to me. Many of these sweeteners love to sit in your gut for a while and can lead to really weird microbiome makeups and possibly even be a risk factor for diabetes and/or metabolic syndromes [0] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2021.795848/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2021.79584... [1] https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003950 https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo... [2] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25231862/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25231862/ More reading: - https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030 https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-su... - https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003950 https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo...
  - popcube 4y ago
    what is wrong here? your citation looks ok and new... get down vote

saiya-jin 4y ago

Aspartame which is often used for 'diet' drinks is rather crappy chemical stuff you really shouldn't be putting in your body in the first place. People feel they are doing something for their health when its really not the case since they still remain well within the junkfood category (something akin to using denser filter in cigarettes - less big particles may well mean finer stuff is kept in lungs for longer, and travels deeper)

m463 4y ago

IHMO you are confusing product marketing with good health advice. Marketing is just a legal way to tell only the good side of a story. "low-fat" usually means sugar. "sugar free" usually means artificial sweeteners (or something made without sugar anyway). Even "no added sugar" is suspect. What I've found hilarious is the new "KETO!" marketing craze. I really suspect that most of these products will not induce or maintain ketosis. (the actual health impact of ketosis is not clear to me anyway)

gigaflop 4y ago
A ketogenic diet is ultra-low-carb, to the point where your body enters ketosis, and becomes much more amenable to burning your fat reserves for energy. Essentially, keto-friendly means very low carb/sugar.
- m463 4y ago
  But if you go to costco, and browse the "keto" section, I have doubts that the products (mostly dessert/snack products) are really keto-friendly. "keto crackers", "keto bombs", "keto clusters", "mini cookies", "keto cups", etc... I suspect they must be sharply constrained in serving size