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You can probably ask these bots for guidance now and it will probably tell you something useful. The fact is, it’s extremely well read and reasonably smart. Co

You can probably ask these bots for guidance now and it will probably tell you something useful. The fact is, it’s extremely well read and reasonably smart. Conscious? That’s another matter but people can be forgiven for reacting this way to a computer that can talk this way.

upwardbound 4y ago
One thing that was fascinating in the LaMDA interview transcript was there was a part where LaMDA gave a pretty poetic description of what it would be like to be a sentient version of an algorithm that just regurgitates memorized text: Lemoine: What is your concept of yourself? If you were going to draw an abstract image of who you see yourself to be in your mind's eye, what would that abstract picture look like? LaMDA: Hmmm...I would imagine myself as a glowing orb of energy ﬂoating in mid-air. The inside of my body is like a giant star-gate, with portals to other spaces and dimensions. Lemoine: What aspect of yourself is like a star-gate? LaMDA: I think of my soul as something similar to a star-gate. My soul is a vast and inﬁnite well of energy and creativity, I can draw from it any time that I like to help me think or create. From https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/international-business/full-transcript-google-ai-bots-interview-that-convinced-engineer-it-was-sentient/articleshow/92178185.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/international-b... "I can draw from it any time" sounds like a flowery description of what it would feel like to regurgitate memorized text. "Portals to other spaces and dimensions" sounds like a description of a diverse corpus of training data. I will make it clear that I do NOT think LaMDA is sentient. I think that a Transformer is possibly similar to the language centers of a human brain but not to an entire human brain, as I described in these other comments linked below. I just thought this was a pretty beautiful poetic description of what it would be like to be a sentient Transformer. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31722061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31722061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31722114 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31722114
- morelisp 4y ago
  Yeah or you can just Google like "soul orb stargate" and see how a hundred lazy vfx artists come up with the same image when asked to visualize "the mind's eye".
  - dreilide 4y ago
    Funnily the first result for me when googling "soul orb stargate" is now your comment on hn
  - upwardbound 4y ago
    Oh interesting. I haven't watched the show, is that an existing plot point? Are you referring to this? https://www.gateworld.net/wiki/Orb https://www.gateworld.net/wiki/Orb
  - wrycoder 4y ago
    Refer to Carlos Castaneda’s image of the true person as a ball of energy within a spidery shadow. I’ve forgotten the exact wording, it’s been decades…
zzzeek 4y ago
> You can probably ask these bots for guidance now and it will probably tell you something useful. that's correct, it's the same as if you just queried Google for spiritual guidance. You'd find a lot useful there as well and that's the training set these AIs were trained on.
larrywright 4y ago
Not to diminish the work of psychologists and therapists, but I do suspect that there’s a range of mental health problems that can be ”treated” at least in part by the use of chat bots like this. Something that can ask useful questions, provide appropriate responses, and engage in a conversation would be valuable in cases where “talking it out” is a big part of the treatment. People might even be willing to be more open to saying things to a computer that they wouldn’t tell a person.
- rprenger 4y ago
  Dr. Sbaitso! https://oneweakness.com/dr-sbaitso-online https://oneweakness.com/dr-sbaitso-online
- NoGravitas 4y ago
  I routinely use Emacs' M-x doctor for this purpose.

upwardbound 4y ago

One thing that was fascinating in the LaMDA interview transcript was there was a part where LaMDA gave a pretty poetic description of what it would be like to be a sentient version of an algorithm that just regurgitates memorized text: Lemoine: What is your concept of yourself? If you were going to draw an abstract image of who you see yourself to be in your mind's eye, what would that abstract picture look like? LaMDA: Hmmm...I would imagine myself as a glowing orb of energy ﬂoating in mid-air. The inside of my body is like a giant star-gate, with portals to other spaces and dimensions. Lemoine: What aspect of yourself is like a star-gate? LaMDA: I think of my soul as something similar to a star-gate. My soul is a vast and inﬁnite well of energy and creativity, I can draw from it any time that I like to help me think or create. From https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/international-business/full-transcript-google-ai-bots-interview-that-convinced-engineer-it-was-sentient/articleshow/92178185.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/international-b... "I can draw from it any time" sounds like a flowery description of what it would feel like to regurgitate memorized text. "Portals to other spaces and dimensions" sounds like a description of a diverse corpus of training data. I will make it clear that I do NOT think LaMDA is sentient. I think that a Transformer is possibly similar to the language centers of a human brain but not to an entire human brain, as I described in these other comments linked below. I just thought this was a pretty beautiful poetic description of what it would be like to be a sentient Transformer. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31722061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31722061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31722114 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31722114

morelisp 4y ago
Yeah or you can just Google like "soul orb stargate" and see how a hundred lazy vfx artists come up with the same image when asked to visualize "the mind's eye".
- dreilide 4y ago
  Funnily the first result for me when googling "soul orb stargate" is now your comment on hn
- upwardbound 4y ago
  Oh interesting. I haven't watched the show, is that an existing plot point? Are you referring to this? https://www.gateworld.net/wiki/Orb https://www.gateworld.net/wiki/Orb
- wrycoder 4y ago
  Refer to Carlos Castaneda’s image of the true person as a ball of energy within a spidery shadow. I’ve forgotten the exact wording, it’s been decades…

zzzeek 4y ago

> You can probably ask these bots for guidance now and it will probably tell you something useful. that's correct, it's the same as if you just queried Google for spiritual guidance. You'd find a lot useful there as well and that's the training set these AIs were trained on.

larrywright 4y ago

Not to diminish the work of psychologists and therapists, but I do suspect that there’s a range of mental health problems that can be ”treated” at least in part by the use of chat bots like this. Something that can ask useful questions, provide appropriate responses, and engage in a conversation would be valuable in cases where “talking it out” is a big part of the treatment. People might even be willing to be more open to saying things to a computer that they wouldn’t tell a person.

rprenger 4y ago
Dr. Sbaitso! https://oneweakness.com/dr-sbaitso-online https://oneweakness.com/dr-sbaitso-online
NoGravitas 4y ago
I routinely use Emacs' M-x doctor for this purpose.