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You really believe that the guys who can't properly weld an armoured vehicle can produce ICBMs? That the guys who cannot produce their own cannon barrels any lo

You really believe that the guys who can't properly weld an armoured vehicle can produce ICBMs? That the guys who cannot produce their own cannon barrels any longer are capable of creating rocket engines? That the guys who cannot prevent thieves from stealing electronics from their doomsday plane are somehow capable to produce, maintain and secure a fleet of ICBMs? Are you really sure that the Russian cleptocracy that sends sappers to the front line with wooden bricks wrapped up as TNT (yep) and styrofoam wrapped up as dry rations for "liberated" civilians are somehow capable of maintaining a fleet of strategic missiles at 1/100 of the budget that US spends to maintain theirs? I'm not. But I am afraid that if we give them 5 years they will manage to get something working. And that scares me more than the thought of angering Putin right now. Luckily I don't have to make this decisions, we have people in Nato who knows extremely much more than me. If they tell me to show up I do.

trasz 4y ago
Tbh this “angering Putin” might make sense. As long as Rashists believe they can win, they continue to bleed out. When they realize they can’t win this, they could try something else, so it makes sense to try to defer that.
cpursley 4y ago
So all the videos getting posted by Ukrainians of missiles zipping through the sky as well as missile strikes are fakes? The western news showing video clips of Russian missiles hitting Ukrainian infrastructure like bridges and bases are fakes? The Pentagon openly saying that Russia has been using hypersonics - fakes? The Russian RD-180 rocket engines powering NASAs Atlas V are fakes? Do you have access to a computer and basic Google skills?
- reitanqild 4y ago
  I've heard talk of one hypersonic that hit a weapons cache early in the war. The rest of what I have seen has been ordinary missiles of various kinds, often either aimed at civilian infrastructure or extremely imprecise.
  - trasz 4y ago
    If I remember correctly, the weapons cache turned out to be a barn. Thus far, Russian stuff that actually works is the one from USSR times.
  - cpursley 4y ago
    They haven't appeared to use a lot of hypersonics (no need, really); probably just testing and calibration. With just the kinetic energy alone, they can do massive damage. And make no mistake, the US will have them soon enough. There's a reason Russia made their moves now (during that gap). As for preciseness, the newer ballistics have precision of over 90% (thanks, US designed chips). Older ones probably 75%. Their biggest weakness is access to chips. And the imprecise hits are coming from the Tochka-Us, an old system that mostly the Ukrainians are fielding - but maybe pro-Russian Ukrainian separatists forces some, too. Check out this book: https://www.amazon.com/Losing-Military-Supremacy-American-Strategic/dp/0998694754/ https://www.amazon.com/Losing-Military-Supremacy-American-St...
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    - reitanqild 4y ago
      > As for preciseness, the newer ballistics have precision of over 90% Ok, so they are bombing civilians on purpose, is that what you say?
      - cpursley 4y ago
        What do you think?
        reitanqild 4y ago
        A combination: It is no secret that much of the good Soviet tech was produced in Ukraine, both tanks and missiles, and without maintenance they won't be as precise as they were supposed to be. And for some reason Ukrainians hasn't wanted to do maintenance on Russians tech the last few years. That said we've also seen plenty enough evidence that Russians shoot civilians on purpose.

trasz 4y ago

Tbh this “angering Putin” might make sense. As long as Rashists believe they can win, they continue to bleed out. When they realize they can’t win this, they could try something else, so it makes sense to try to defer that.

cpursley 4y ago

So all the videos getting posted by Ukrainians of missiles zipping through the sky as well as missile strikes are fakes? The western news showing video clips of Russian missiles hitting Ukrainian infrastructure like bridges and bases are fakes? The Pentagon openly saying that Russia has been using hypersonics - fakes? The Russian RD-180 rocket engines powering NASAs Atlas V are fakes? Do you have access to a computer and basic Google skills?

reitanqild 4y ago
I've heard talk of one hypersonic that hit a weapons cache early in the war. The rest of what I have seen has been ordinary missiles of various kinds, often either aimed at civilian infrastructure or extremely imprecise.
- trasz 4y ago
  If I remember correctly, the weapons cache turned out to be a barn. Thus far, Russian stuff that actually works is the one from USSR times.
- cpursley 4y ago
  They haven't appeared to use a lot of hypersonics (no need, really); probably just testing and calibration. With just the kinetic energy alone, they can do massive damage. And make no mistake, the US will have them soon enough. There's a reason Russia made their moves now (during that gap). As for preciseness, the newer ballistics have precision of over 90% (thanks, US designed chips). Older ones probably 75%. Their biggest weakness is access to chips. And the imprecise hits are coming from the Tochka-Us, an old system that mostly the Ukrainians are fielding - but maybe pro-Russian Ukrainian separatists forces some, too. Check out this book: https://www.amazon.com/Losing-Military-Supremacy-American-Strategic/dp/0998694754/ https://www.amazon.com/Losing-Military-Supremacy-American-St...
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  - reitanqild 4y ago
    > As for preciseness, the newer ballistics have precision of over 90% Ok, so they are bombing civilians on purpose, is that what you say?
    - cpursley 4y ago
      What do you think?
      - reitanqild 4y ago
        A combination: It is no secret that much of the good Soviet tech was produced in Ukraine, both tanks and missiles, and without maintenance they won't be as precise as they were supposed to be. And for some reason Ukrainians hasn't wanted to do maintenance on Russians tech the last few years. That said we've also seen plenty enough evidence that Russians shoot civilians on purpose.