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Your analogy is flawed by adding the assumption that they got addicted on the job. As though they gradually fall down a slope from paracetamol to Percocet and o

Your analogy is flawed by adding the assumption that they got addicted on the job. As though they gradually fall down a slope from paracetamol to Percocet and off the rails as some moustache twirling villain exploits them… All fields of work are routinely subject to “bonuses” and millions of people take painkillers and miscellaneous other medications to function through the workday in order to earn both their base pay and to try and meet targets in order to get bonuses… Is the manual labourer taking painkillers on the job to get through a day of laying bricks who is ignoring their body telling them they need to stop the work, who is pushing themselves artificially in order to get a job bonus, hurting their body, potentially beginning a cycle of painkillers being necessary to function for their job, not being equally exploited by your logic?

mc32 4y ago
I see, since manual labor over the period of many years can lead to situations where you need painkillers, the sex industry is beyond scrutiny and reproach, yes? Let us not forget how sexist and ageist the industry is as well.
- ninjanomnom 4y ago
  Not beyond reproach but it is a fair argument to make that people's choices can be considered unforced from a moral perspective even in the presence of reasonable external pressures. If someone has decided that sex work is acceptable to them then I'm willing to take that at face value unless genuine exploitative behavior is found. If you aren't willing to allow any sort of pressures on people to perform what they consider their livelihood, then employing anyone such that they only make enough to live paycheck to paycheck is immoral as well.
  - mc32 4y ago
    If the sex industry were organized and professionalized such that they had advocacy and regulation that specified acceptable behavior by management. No work if on drugs or alcohol and if addicted to the above, have programs to address those issues and had independent feminist organizations providing feedback and advocacy for members, and had rules regarding management-employee relations, etc., then ok, they could be addressed as any other industry.
- techdragon 4y ago
  I’m not suggesting at is beyond reproach, simply pointing out that the given example is not uniquely applicable to sex work and thus is not a good example for why sex work is worse than any other kind of paid work. Objecting to sex work and sex work alone is often couched in language that tries to paint the situation as uniquely terrible for the people being used as examples.. but it’s disingenuous because there are equivalent non sex work examples of the same work related perils that people opposed to sex work usually don’t care about. (I see plenty of people online that care, but I’ve never met one face to face who wasn’t a genuine communist)

mc32 4y ago

I see, since manual labor over the period of many years can lead to situations where you need painkillers, the sex industry is beyond scrutiny and reproach, yes? Let us not forget how sexist and ageist the industry is as well.

ninjanomnom 4y ago
Not beyond reproach but it is a fair argument to make that people's choices can be considered unforced from a moral perspective even in the presence of reasonable external pressures. If someone has decided that sex work is acceptable to them then I'm willing to take that at face value unless genuine exploitative behavior is found. If you aren't willing to allow any sort of pressures on people to perform what they consider their livelihood, then employing anyone such that they only make enough to live paycheck to paycheck is immoral as well.
- mc32 4y ago
  If the sex industry were organized and professionalized such that they had advocacy and regulation that specified acceptable behavior by management. No work if on drugs or alcohol and if addicted to the above, have programs to address those issues and had independent feminist organizations providing feedback and advocacy for members, and had rules regarding management-employee relations, etc., then ok, they could be addressed as any other industry.
techdragon 4y ago
I’m not suggesting at is beyond reproach, simply pointing out that the given example is not uniquely applicable to sex work and thus is not a good example for why sex work is worse than any other kind of paid work. Objecting to sex work and sex work alone is often couched in language that tries to paint the situation as uniquely terrible for the people being used as examples.. but it’s disingenuous because there are equivalent non sex work examples of the same work related perils that people opposed to sex work usually don’t care about. (I see plenty of people online that care, but I’ve never met one face to face who wasn’t a genuine communist)