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Others have responded to the technical deficiencies in your comment. I’ll just say it’s a bit rich to be telling the developers of React - “all this can be don

Others have responded to the technical deficiencies in your comment. I’ll just say it’s a bit rich to be telling the developers of React - “all this can be done with a server side rendered PHP”. The developers of React are well aware of what PHP can do, because they work at a company with one of the largest PHP (-ish) codebases in the world. Almost all pages on Facebook were completely server rendered, but they’re gradually moving towards React based web pages. Please consider that the people making technical decisions might know what they’re doing. Please don’t condescend.

chrischen 4y ago
The funny thing is as far as I know they still use PHP to render React (via embedded javascript interpreter) on the server.
- nindalf 4y ago
  You have a source for that? The React code I've seen at Facebook is client rendered.
  - chrischen 4y ago
    > Whenever they want to run JavaScript on server (e.g. rendering React on server) they just use V8 directly rather than using Node. I forgot where I read it, but it was someone on the internet where they embed V8 and call from PHP (Hack). https://hashnode.com/post/10-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-javascript-react-and-nodejs-and-graphql-development-at-facebook-cink0r0e500h5io53fpl7ediu https://hashnode.com/post/10-things-you-probably-didnt-know-... It's true they don't really use SSR that widely, as Facebook.com doesn't really need it, but I'm pretty sure they do use streaming SSR, which offers UX benefits.
    - nindalf 4y ago
      From your link > Yes, Facebook uses SSR heavily. However, according to Lee, there are very few areas where they use React to render components on server. This was primarily a decision based on their server environment which is Hack. Yeah this is my whole point. That person was attempting to school devs at Facebook on the benefits of server side rendering in PHP. And whatever you said was quite niche.

chrischen 4y ago

The funny thing is as far as I know they still use PHP to render React (via embedded javascript interpreter) on the server.

nindalf 4y ago
You have a source for that? The React code I've seen at Facebook is client rendered.
- chrischen 4y ago
  > Whenever they want to run JavaScript on server (e.g. rendering React on server) they just use V8 directly rather than using Node. I forgot where I read it, but it was someone on the internet where they embed V8 and call from PHP (Hack). https://hashnode.com/post/10-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-javascript-react-and-nodejs-and-graphql-development-at-facebook-cink0r0e500h5io53fpl7ediu https://hashnode.com/post/10-things-you-probably-didnt-know-... It's true they don't really use SSR that widely, as Facebook.com doesn't really need it, but I'm pretty sure they do use streaming SSR, which offers UX benefits.
  - nindalf 4y ago
    From your link > Yes, Facebook uses SSR heavily. However, according to Lee, there are very few areas where they use React to render components on server. This was primarily a decision based on their server environment which is Hack. Yeah this is my whole point. That person was attempting to school devs at Facebook on the benefits of server side rendering in PHP. And whatever you said was quite niche.