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The two work in tandem, though. I use Firefox on mobile because I use Firefox on desktop. That and it being the only Android browser that runs uBlock Origin, of

The two work in tandem, though. I use Firefox on mobile because I use Firefox on desktop. That and it being the only Android browser that runs uBlock Origin, of course. I currently use Thunderbird on desktop, but use a combination of Gmail and Outlook on Android. If Thunderbird picks up K-9 mail and turns it into a first-class mobile client, I'll probably use Thunderbird instead of the Outlook app. People like consistency.

ekianjo 4y ago
- nvrspyx 4y ago
  Why be so condescending? Also, they could use Firefox on mobile to keep their history and bookmarks in sync across devices in addition to some extensions they find useful, like uBlock Origin as they mentioned. Just because the number of extensions is less than desktop doesn't mean the extensions that do exist aren't game changers for them.
- pritambaral 4y ago
  Hey, 3 > 0. How many do you enjoy?
  - ekianjo 4y ago
    You missed the good old days of firefox on android supporting hundreds of extensions. progress, I guess?
    - input_sh 4y ago
      Ah yeah, back when page load lasted 3x as long as Chrome (on a lower end device at least). I've installed the rewrite back when it was called Firefox Preview.
  - binarysneaker 4y ago
    Long time Android Firefox user here, mainly because of Ublock. Syncing with my Mozilla account was a plus, I use Firefox on desktop because of its container tabs. Lately I switched to Brave (Android), which is noticeably faster, and supports extensions too.
- jeltz 4y ago
  Yes, I enjoy them a lot. They, especially uBlock, are the reason I switched to Firefox Mobile from Chrome. No more annoying ads for me.
- AdmiralAsshat 4y ago
  Works great! That's three more than Chrome supports. Plus, I'm at two now. Your post reminded me to check how many add-ons I actually have installed, and I realized that HTTPS Everywhere is no longer needed because Firefox itself rolled out an HTTPS-Only setting.
- sanitycheck 4y ago
  I only need 1: NoScript. I hate what they've done with Mobile Firefox but it's still better than the alternatives.
- maleldil 4y ago
  Even if Firefox for Android had only one extension (uBlock Origin), I'd still use it. Using an ad blocker is the single best thing you can do to improve your user experience on the web.
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  uBlock by itself is enough to justify using Firefox on Android. Still sucks that they made it so limited, sure, but Mozilla's really good at nailing "somehow the least awful awful browser".
- NoGravitas 4y ago
  Most of the recommended extensions on Firefox Mobile are also the most widely used and most needed (in particular uBlock Origin). But if you really need more extensions, you can jump through a bunch of hoops in Firefox Nightly to get any extension you want. Some of them even work pretty well (I use Privacy Redirect, Stylus, and Bypass Paywalls Clean in addition to some of the recommended ones).
longrod 4y ago
Firefox is a dying horse on its last throes before Hades claims it for its own. Mythology aside, I find it truly sad to see the state Firefox is in. A browser is an incredibly complex piece of software and what Mozilla did with Firefox is nothing short of brilliant. Alas, they have been left too far behind [0] I am afraid they'll no longer be relevant in a few years. Every few months Mozilla tries to overhaul it's UI and succeeds only to try again later. What are they trying to do? What's the real reason behind their slow descent into irrelevance? Last time I tried Firefox on Android, it was a mess. Crashing every few minutes, unpredictable. I hear its a lot better now which is great! But why did they ditch the old one? [0] https://caniuse.com/?compare=firefox+101,chrome+102&compareCats=all https://caniuse.com/?compare=firefox+101,chrome+102&compareC... edit: added link to caniuse.com
- itintheory 4y ago
  I'm not sure which Firefox you're using, but the description you've laid out here doesn't match my experience at all. I've been using FF on desktop and android for years and have had no issues whatsoever. In what way do you feel firefox has been "left too far behind" ? There was a time when Chrome was faster by an ample margin, but it's no longer enough to be an important distinction. Between the privacy respecting features, and plugin support on mobile - Firefox is the best choice.
  - longrod 4y ago
    A full detailed list: https://caniuse.com/?compare=firefox+101,chrome+102&compareCats=all https://caniuse.com/?compare=firefox+101,chrome+102&compareC...
    - prophesi 4y ago
      I don't think this proves Firefox is dying. A better indicator would be Chrome's past decade of 90%+ browser market share. It's also worth noting that a good amount of the features not implemented in Firefox are either Chrome-specific experiments, or features purposefully unimplemented for privacy purposes. If anything, it shows the damage of a browser-tech monopoly which Edge and Brave aren't helping with.
Zak 4y ago
> That and it being the only Android browser that runs uBlock Origin, of course. There's also Kiwi. It runs pretty much any extension available for Desktop Chromium.
- Macha 4y ago
  Though once manifest v3 is the only option, it's hard to say that'll really be as effective as uBlock Origin on Firefox: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...
  - Zak 4y ago
    That's an issue. I'm really puzzled my Mozilla's sudden aversion to an open repository of extensions on Android.
    - Macha 4y ago
      Yeah, me too. My best guess is that it's PM's who are overprotective of their idea of how it should work and feel they don't have to open the box as wide as on desktop. But 20 > 0, all the same.
    - woojoo666 4y ago
      I think a lot of Firefox extensions are still broken on mobile. For example, I can't find a single tab manager / session manager that works on mobile
      - Zak 4y ago
        Users can only easily install extensions from the "recommended" collection. Installing anything else requires running a development build and jumping through hoops. The Firefox team has been very clear that simply developing a reasonable working extension that some people might want does not create an expectation it will ever be recommended. So why would anybody bother writing an extension for Firefox mobile?

ekianjo 4y ago

nvrspyx 4y ago
Why be so condescending? Also, they could use Firefox on mobile to keep their history and bookmarks in sync across devices in addition to some extensions they find useful, like uBlock Origin as they mentioned. Just because the number of extensions is less than desktop doesn't mean the extensions that do exist aren't game changers for them.
pritambaral 4y ago
Hey, 3 > 0. How many do you enjoy?
- ekianjo 4y ago
  You missed the good old days of firefox on android supporting hundreds of extensions. progress, I guess?
  - input_sh 4y ago
    Ah yeah, back when page load lasted 3x as long as Chrome (on a lower end device at least). I've installed the rewrite back when it was called Firefox Preview.
- binarysneaker 4y ago
  Long time Android Firefox user here, mainly because of Ublock. Syncing with my Mozilla account was a plus, I use Firefox on desktop because of its container tabs. Lately I switched to Brave (Android), which is noticeably faster, and supports extensions too.
jeltz 4y ago
Yes, I enjoy them a lot. They, especially uBlock, are the reason I switched to Firefox Mobile from Chrome. No more annoying ads for me.
AdmiralAsshat 4y ago
Works great! That's three more than Chrome supports. Plus, I'm at two now. Your post reminded me to check how many add-ons I actually have installed, and I realized that HTTPS Everywhere is no longer needed because Firefox itself rolled out an HTTPS-Only setting.
sanitycheck 4y ago
I only need 1: NoScript. I hate what they've done with Mobile Firefox but it's still better than the alternatives.
maleldil 4y ago
Even if Firefox for Android had only one extension (uBlock Origin), I'd still use it. Using an ad blocker is the single best thing you can do to improve your user experience on the web.
yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
uBlock by itself is enough to justify using Firefox on Android. Still sucks that they made it so limited, sure, but Mozilla's really good at nailing "somehow the least awful awful browser".
NoGravitas 4y ago
Most of the recommended extensions on Firefox Mobile are also the most widely used and most needed (in particular uBlock Origin). But if you really need more extensions, you can jump through a bunch of hoops in Firefox Nightly to get any extension you want. Some of them even work pretty well (I use Privacy Redirect, Stylus, and Bypass Paywalls Clean in addition to some of the recommended ones).

longrod 4y ago

Firefox is a dying horse on its last throes before Hades claims it for its own. Mythology aside, I find it truly sad to see the state Firefox is in. A browser is an incredibly complex piece of software and what Mozilla did with Firefox is nothing short of brilliant. Alas, they have been left too far behind [0] I am afraid they'll no longer be relevant in a few years. Every few months Mozilla tries to overhaul it's UI and succeeds only to try again later. What are they trying to do? What's the real reason behind their slow descent into irrelevance? Last time I tried Firefox on Android, it was a mess. Crashing every few minutes, unpredictable. I hear its a lot better now which is great! But why did they ditch the old one? [0] https://caniuse.com/?compare=firefox+101,chrome+102&compareCats=all https://caniuse.com/?compare=firefox+101,chrome+102&compareC... edit: added link to caniuse.com

itintheory 4y ago
I'm not sure which Firefox you're using, but the description you've laid out here doesn't match my experience at all. I've been using FF on desktop and android for years and have had no issues whatsoever. In what way do you feel firefox has been "left too far behind" ? There was a time when Chrome was faster by an ample margin, but it's no longer enough to be an important distinction. Between the privacy respecting features, and plugin support on mobile - Firefox is the best choice.
- longrod 4y ago
  A full detailed list: https://caniuse.com/?compare=firefox+101,chrome+102&compareCats=all https://caniuse.com/?compare=firefox+101,chrome+102&compareC...
  - prophesi 4y ago
    I don't think this proves Firefox is dying. A better indicator would be Chrome's past decade of 90%+ browser market share. It's also worth noting that a good amount of the features not implemented in Firefox are either Chrome-specific experiments, or features purposefully unimplemented for privacy purposes. If anything, it shows the damage of a browser-tech monopoly which Edge and Brave aren't helping with.

Zak 4y ago

> That and it being the only Android browser that runs uBlock Origin, of course. There's also Kiwi. It runs pretty much any extension available for Desktop Chromium.

Macha 4y ago
Though once manifest v3 is the only option, it's hard to say that'll really be as effective as uBlock Origin on Firefox: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...
- Zak 4y ago
  That's an issue. I'm really puzzled my Mozilla's sudden aversion to an open repository of extensions on Android.
  - Macha 4y ago
    Yeah, me too. My best guess is that it's PM's who are overprotective of their idea of how it should work and feel they don't have to open the box as wide as on desktop. But 20 > 0, all the same.
  - woojoo666 4y ago
    I think a lot of Firefox extensions are still broken on mobile. For example, I can't find a single tab manager / session manager that works on mobile
    - Zak 4y ago
      Users can only easily install extensions from the "recommended" collection. Installing anything else requires running a development build and jumping through hoops. The Firefox team has been very clear that simply developing a reasonable working extension that some people might want does not create an expectation it will ever be recommended. So why would anybody bother writing an extension for Firefox mobile?