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Google links/indexes websites, but doesn't host them. Unless you are talking about the cache. > you can't just hold a provider accountable for user uploaded co

by Chris2048 4y ago

Google links/indexes websites, but doesn't host them. Unless you are talking about the cache. > you can't just hold a provider accountable for user uploaded content. Can't you hold providers accountable for not verifying user identity? Just ask for verified photo-id and illegal content becomes enforceable. An video-hosting adult site of obviously more sensitive than a web-scraper/search engine, so the extra steps are justified. Then (and only then) can you go after the uploaders. > require government ID for every Pornhub account for uploading, yes. Not spectator accounts. > Plenty of stolen content on there already! Mostly it's links, not hosting, afaik. If they remove any cached images/videos if the original link goes away then I figure they're covered.

jeroenhd 4y ago
The cache and the preview snippet have been considered stolen IP by news agencies for years and in several cases these news agencies have been awarded the right to demand Google stops displaying their content (which they quickly reverted once nobody visited their site anymore). Google Images also contains a vast amount of material that's cached by Google, available for quite some time after the source has been deleted. You can definitely hold companies accountable for ID verification. The EU even required Google to verify users are 18+ to view some YouTube videos, either by uploading an ID or by paying a cent through a credit card. Pornhub already requires ID verification and more, so it should catch abuse of their systems. However, when you have a video of five people going at it in front of a camera with a whole production team, I'm not sure who you're going to verify and how.
- Chris2048 4y ago
  > to view some YouTube videos, either by uploading an ID or by paying a cent through a credit card viewing isn't the issue - it's uploading, of illegal content meaning users willing to break the law, such as spoofing/faking photo id or credit cards, so for this both these verification methods aren't enough. > I'm not sure who you're going to verify Anyone accountable as the copyright holder e.g. if it's a production company a liable director or something. The point is - you need someone to go after if the material turns out to be illegal i.e. non-deniable proof of liability. Incidentally, this rules out any videos originating in countries with legal systems that do not cooperate with the local one.

jeroenhd 4y ago

The cache and the preview snippet have been considered stolen IP by news agencies for years and in several cases these news agencies have been awarded the right to demand Google stops displaying their content (which they quickly reverted once nobody visited their site anymore). Google Images also contains a vast amount of material that's cached by Google, available for quite some time after the source has been deleted. You can definitely hold companies accountable for ID verification. The EU even required Google to verify users are 18+ to view some YouTube videos, either by uploading an ID or by paying a cent through a credit card. Pornhub already requires ID verification and more, so it should catch abuse of their systems. However, when you have a video of five people going at it in front of a camera with a whole production team, I'm not sure who you're going to verify and how.

Chris2048 4y ago
> to view some YouTube videos, either by uploading an ID or by paying a cent through a credit card viewing isn't the issue - it's uploading, of illegal content meaning users willing to break the law, such as spoofing/faking photo id or credit cards, so for this both these verification methods aren't enough. > I'm not sure who you're going to verify Anyone accountable as the copyright holder e.g. if it's a production company a liable director or something. The point is - you need someone to go after if the material turns out to be illegal i.e. non-deniable proof of liability. Incidentally, this rules out any videos originating in countries with legal systems that do not cooperate with the local one.