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That's nice when you write it down, but the whole thing is much grayer than that. Consent isn't necessarily as clear as that, especially when you have 5-6 men i

That's nice when you write it down, but the whole thing is much grayer than that. Consent isn't necessarily as clear as that, especially when you have 5-6 men in a room with a single woman who is being filmed. How do you stop coercion then? How do prove consent? There are stories on both sides. Some porn stars say they will quite easily make informed decisions in that situation. But I think that is the minority...

yieldcrv 4y ago
> Some porn stars say they will quite easily make informed decisions in that situation. But I think that is the minority... from my experience, we have no way of quantifying that statement because even many “sex work positive” forums will remove and ban any performer talking about their experience in a positive light this whole discussion is based on bad assumptions partially because everybody with a platform has an angle, so far
throwaway0a5e 4y ago
Being pressured into doing work that isn't the "gravy" part of your job is part of literally every job.
- cloutchaser 4y ago
  Except in most jobs you only metaphorically get fucked violently in the ass. Have you tried it not metaphorically?
elp 4y ago
> Some porn stars say they will quite easily make informed decisions in that situation. But I think that is the minority... This seems to be a common trope. The poor porn actress didn't know what was going to happen.... In the real world while some producers are complete scum they are not the majority and the outright criminal ones end up in jail (See GirlsDoPorn) . Most porn stars have agents looking out for their interests at least partially. Look on something like iafd.com and you can see that the major studios have people returning year after for shoots. While the work might seem horrible it is the choice of the people involved who have made decisions appropriate for THEM. Working for a full month at minimum wage vs 1 week a month for vastly more money etc.
- willcipriano 4y ago
  I had to stop watching porn since I grew up in a poor area and can tell when people are on opioids. About half the time they look so messed up that I doubt they even really know where they are.
- cloutchaser 4y ago
  The 18 year old actress recruited online flying down to Miami to shoot and live with 5 other actresses has an agent that represents her interests? Yeah no. And that I know is the situation for many in porn.

yieldcrv 4y ago

> Some porn stars say they will quite easily make informed decisions in that situation. But I think that is the minority... from my experience, we have no way of quantifying that statement because even many “sex work positive” forums will remove and ban any performer talking about their experience in a positive light this whole discussion is based on bad assumptions partially because everybody with a platform has an angle, so far

throwaway0a5e 4y ago

Being pressured into doing work that isn't the "gravy" part of your job is part of literally every job.

cloutchaser 4y ago
Except in most jobs you only metaphorically get fucked violently in the ass. Have you tried it not metaphorically?

elp 4y ago

> Some porn stars say they will quite easily make informed decisions in that situation. But I think that is the minority... This seems to be a common trope. The poor porn actress didn't know what was going to happen.... In the real world while some producers are complete scum they are not the majority and the outright criminal ones end up in jail (See GirlsDoPorn) . Most porn stars have agents looking out for their interests at least partially. Look on something like iafd.com and you can see that the major studios have people returning year after for shoots. While the work might seem horrible it is the choice of the people involved who have made decisions appropriate for THEM. Working for a full month at minimum wage vs 1 week a month for vastly more money etc.

willcipriano 4y ago
I had to stop watching porn since I grew up in a poor area and can tell when people are on opioids. About half the time they look so messed up that I doubt they even really know where they are.
cloutchaser 4y ago
The 18 year old actress recruited online flying down to Miami to shoot and live with 5 other actresses has an agent that represents her interests? Yeah no. And that I know is the situation for many in porn.