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We should be asking "what exactly is the point of holding BTC"

by ParksNet 4y ago

coldpie 4y ago
People like gambling. It's a fact of humanity that's never going away.
- namaria 4y ago
  People like free money. They get addicted to gambling because of that.
SkyMarshal 4y ago
Holding BTC for the long term has historically been a lucrative investment. Just not holding it on one of the many centralized exchanges that always seem to get hacked or go bust.
- doliveira 4y ago
  Prices went up exactly because of these centralized exchanges.
  - once_inc 4y ago
    [citation needed]
- onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
  Holding tulips in the long term was historically a good investment, too, until it wasn't.
- Night_Thastus 4y ago
  It's not a "lucrative investment". It's a bigger fool scam. The only way to make money in BTC is for someone else to buy in for more than you did originally. It makes it appear as if BTC's price is always going up, but in reality the number of fools is limited - especially with the buy-in getting higher and higher. Sure, the price will always go up in the long run. But it will become less and less liquid, and at some point those who are left will have hundreds of thousands or millions of theoretical money that's completely unspendable, because no-one else will buy in for more than they did.
  - tasuki 4y ago
    The person you're replying to was very careful to say "has historically been a lucrative investment". They have not claimed it to be a lucrative investment right now.
  - jonathanstrange 4y ago
    > The only way to make money in BTC is for someone else to buy in for more than you did originally. It makes it appear as if BTC's price is always going up I'm not a crypto expert but that statement seems incorrect to me, since as far as I know BTC has deflation built into it. The more is mined the harder it is to mine more. So as long as investors are keeping some trust in it and are not selling at large scale, the BTC value should continue to go up in the long run (ignoring smaller fluctuations). That's why people have been flocking to it in the first place.
    - pram 4y ago
      Just because something has a limited amount doesn’t mean its value automatically goes up.
- msbarnett 4y ago
  Investing with Bernie Madoff was historically a lucrative investment, right up until it wasn’t anymore.
once_inc 4y ago
I can list a number of valid, real-world use cases. Bitcoin can be easily held either online or offline, in a number of solutions ranging between paper wallets, through hardware wallets, to dedicated laptops. Holding bitcoin on exchange is like giving people the keys to your safe because it is easier if they can open the safe for you while you gamble.

We should be asking "what exactly is the point of holding BTC"

coldpie 4y ago

People like gambling. It's a fact of humanity that's never going away.

namaria 4y ago
People like free money. They get addicted to gambling because of that.

SkyMarshal 4y ago

Holding BTC for the long term has historically been a lucrative investment. Just not holding it on one of the many centralized exchanges that always seem to get hacked or go bust.

doliveira 4y ago
Prices went up exactly because of these centralized exchanges.
- once_inc 4y ago
  [citation needed]
onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
Holding tulips in the long term was historically a good investment, too, until it wasn't.
Night_Thastus 4y ago
It's not a "lucrative investment". It's a bigger fool scam. The only way to make money in BTC is for someone else to buy in for more than you did originally. It makes it appear as if BTC's price is always going up, but in reality the number of fools is limited - especially with the buy-in getting higher and higher. Sure, the price will always go up in the long run. But it will become less and less liquid, and at some point those who are left will have hundreds of thousands or millions of theoretical money that's completely unspendable, because no-one else will buy in for more than they did.
- tasuki 4y ago
  The person you're replying to was very careful to say "has historically been a lucrative investment". They have not claimed it to be a lucrative investment right now.
- jonathanstrange 4y ago
  > The only way to make money in BTC is for someone else to buy in for more than you did originally. It makes it appear as if BTC's price is always going up I'm not a crypto expert but that statement seems incorrect to me, since as far as I know BTC has deflation built into it. The more is mined the harder it is to mine more. So as long as investors are keeping some trust in it and are not selling at large scale, the BTC value should continue to go up in the long run (ignoring smaller fluctuations). That's why people have been flocking to it in the first place.
  - pram 4y ago
    Just because something has a limited amount doesn’t mean its value automatically goes up.
msbarnett 4y ago
Investing with Bernie Madoff was historically a lucrative investment, right up until it wasn’t anymore.

once_inc 4y ago

I can list a number of valid, real-world use cases. Bitcoin can be easily held either online or offline, in a number of solutions ranging between paper wallets, through hardware wallets, to dedicated laptops. Holding bitcoin on exchange is like giving people the keys to your safe because it is easier if they can open the safe for you while you gamble.