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Is this the real life or is it just fantasy ? How far is this demo from the real algorithm ? In the demo it seems they use a very simple decision tree just bas
by GistNoesis 4y ago
Is this the real life or is it just fantasy ?
How far is this demo from the real algorithm ? In the demo it seems they use a very simple decision tree just based on very few criterion (In order : Self-perceived ability to get a job, Origin, Age, Recent employment rate).
Does this simplistic (racist and ageist) model have been derived from real data and is in use, or is it just some kind of propaganda (from CopenHagen University?) and the real model they use is much more complex.
Random forests can be made much bigger and match data quite well provided they are big enough, but the bigger they get the harder they are to explain.
Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality.
- nonrandomstring 4y agoThe general problem with all this "algorithmic" (lazy-arse avoidant) jiggery-pokery is that it entrenches a bunch of extant values. An "expert system" - what this is - is nothing but the sum of historical expertise minus the human wisdom lost encoding it. Thunderbolt and lightning very, very frightening.
- PeterStuer 4y agoIt seems to be the result of analyzing 152.000 unemployment case histories. While the outcome is rather coarse grained I have a feeling it wouldn't be too far of reality for a quick risk assessment. You can say e.g. the resulting model surfaces 'ageist' rules, but isn't that just a reflection of reality? Jobs chances for the average >56,5yo are indeed pretty slim, and not just in Denmark. Should the model lie about that?
- jmeister 4y agoIs it racist or ageist if it is accurate?