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This seems a little pedantic. The contrast I'm trying to draw here is the steep drop off from the golden ages of ~2010 where you couldn't move for RSS symbols,

This seems a little pedantic. The contrast I'm trying to draw here is the steep drop off from the golden ages of ~2010 where you couldn't move for RSS symbols, aggregators, browsers that would suggest what to do with a RSS if they noticed one in the head, or loaded one directly. Like most of HN, I've been using it daily for decades, but it's nowhere near as available as it used to be. Neither Firefox or Chrome seem to treat it as content worth looking at, but they used to. Look at the HN RSS feed in your browser for fun: https://news.ycombinator.com/rss https://news.ycombinator.com/rss On my website (TFA), I had to add my own XLST. That works well now, for now. But how long until XLST support is removed because "nobody uses it"? How much more dead do you need something to be before it's worth talking about? Previous conversations haven't accomplished anything, more services ignore RSS, iCal, so maybe it's worth banging on about this stuff until pressure finds the right people, and so that RSS doesn't get further excluded, so that people still think it's worth making feeds for. I'm sorry you think it's cliché.

lapcat 4y ago
> How much more dead do you need something to be before it's worth talking about? This is a strange question. One normally doesn't talk about dead technologies at all, except perhaps nostalgically. "Hey, remember Netscape Navigator?" Declaring RSS dead doesn't have the rhetorical effect that you intend, as the dead can't be brought back to life. > I'm sorry you think it's cliché. It's not just me. A lot of people upvoted and/or agreed with my comment, so I would take that as a sign that the "RSS is dead" rhetoric is counterproductive and distracting to your points. I feel the same about the old people/kids shtick, by the way. If you're trying to make a serious point and actually change things, don't turn it into a joke.
- oliwarner 4y ago
  Hobbyists and scholars still use Latin, despite its death in ~400AD. It quickly fell out of mainstream use through poor education, lost its influence, lost central steering, and only remnants exist through the patchwork of languages over middle-ages Europe. RSS is still in use, but it's rarely advertised, today's browsers already refuse to speak it without additional stylesheets, and the spec's largely abandoned. Where will it be in another five years? You're welcome to your views but whether or not RSS has died is immaterial. I was trying to identify what has replaced RSS between the sites that don't provide it, and users who don't know anything about it. The short answer to that seems to be promoting your content on social media.

lapcat 4y ago

> How much more dead do you need something to be before it's worth talking about? This is a strange question. One normally doesn't talk about dead technologies at all, except perhaps nostalgically. "Hey, remember Netscape Navigator?" Declaring RSS dead doesn't have the rhetorical effect that you intend, as the dead can't be brought back to life. > I'm sorry you think it's cliché. It's not just me. A lot of people upvoted and/or agreed with my comment, so I would take that as a sign that the "RSS is dead" rhetoric is counterproductive and distracting to your points. I feel the same about the old people/kids shtick, by the way. If you're trying to make a serious point and actually change things, don't turn it into a joke.

oliwarner 4y ago
Hobbyists and scholars still use Latin, despite its death in ~400AD. It quickly fell out of mainstream use through poor education, lost its influence, lost central steering, and only remnants exist through the patchwork of languages over middle-ages Europe. RSS is still in use, but it's rarely advertised, today's browsers already refuse to speak it without additional stylesheets, and the spec's largely abandoned. Where will it be in another five years? You're welcome to your views but whether or not RSS has died is immaterial. I was trying to identify what has replaced RSS between the sites that don't provide it, and users who don't know anything about it. The short answer to that seems to be promoting your content on social media.