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You better not know what else scientists do to rats. And please, don't even start on the argument that they do it for science and not for entertainment. Enterta
by Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
You better not know what else scientists do to rats. And please, don't even start on the argument that they do it for science and not for entertainment. Entertainment in the form of science fiction is crucial for inspiring new generations of scientists.
- dTal 4y agoIt sounds like the next generation of scientists could benefit from inspirational films showing less animal cruelty.
- wolfram74 4y agoIf you insist on knives without any blood, you'll be looking for a very long time.
- Rechtsstaat 4y ago> You better not know what else scientists do to rats. Most people know what scientists do to animals—there have been enough awareness campaigns over the years. Animal experiments are tolerated, and usually strictly regulated [1], because they can potentially improve the lives of people. > Entertainment in the form of science fiction is crucial for inspiring new generations of scientists. I don't see why that (if it is true at all) is a reason to abuse animals for movies. If you wanted, you could make 'inspiring' science fiction showing harm to animals by using special effects. [1]: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A02010L0063-20190626 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...
- yellowapple 4y agoWould this technically count as science, given that it was a real test of perfluorocarbon breathing and that it was documented?
- refurb 4y agoScientists don't abuse or cause distress or panic in animals, just FYI. There are very strict rules around it.
- shkkmo 4y agoSimply not true. There are some rules to limit the amount of abuse or distress for some types on animal, but that doesn't prevent anywhere near all of it.
- refurb 4y agoIve done animal experiments. All the rats were unconscious.
- shkkmo 4y agoI've assisted with animal experiments as well, they were not unconscious.
- refurb 4y agoThen you’re aware of the standards? Any discomfort has to be justified by the value of the data? And generally if you can relieve discomfort then it’s a requirement? The fact you said “limit the abuse” makes me think you aren’t that familiar. No “abuse” is allowed.
- LargoLasskhyfv 4y ago