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I think you find it hilarious because you misunderstand its purpose its a bit like me laughing at the US federal government because it can't even put consistent

I think you find it hilarious because you misunderstand its purpose its a bit like me laughing at the US federal government because it can't even put consistent marriage or abortion laws in place across the country. The EU's roots are as a common trading block - it is built around the foundation of a single market, removing barriers to trade across countries. A common defense policy isn't part of that, external borders are nominally a matter for those countries - it is internal borders that the EU is centrally concerned with. Common connectors for phones, clearly falls within the ambit of a seamless internal market, internal combustion engines too - given that the countries have adopted similar positions on climate change and want the market to reflect that. Cookie popups were a stupid industry innovation designed to try and circumvent EU data privacy rules.

toyg 4y ago
> t is built around the foundation of a single market, removing barriers to trade across countries. Somewhat ironically, that's also the basic principle enshrining the primacy of the US federal government - rules for interstate commerce. The main difference between the US system and EU system is that one was effectively built top-down, and the other bottom-up. At some point, they will likely reach a similar equilibrium, with US states becoming more and more independent and EU states less and less so.
- seanw444 4y ago
  > with US states becoming more and more independent I can only dream.
  - toyg 4y ago
    I see it as inevitable. As population grows even in remote areas, the system will have to accept that certain issues are unreconcilable at federal level. Chances are you already know what those issues are, but the list can only grow.
AbrahamParangi 4y ago
Moving the blame from the EU data privacy rules to literally everyone else is frankly just ridiculous.
- propertymagnate 4y ago
  Your honour I hold it was not my client who did wrong, but the person who made the law banning murder in the first place.
  - AbrahamParangi 4y ago
    Yes, well, maybe this particular regulation introduced in 2018 has the moral universality of murder or maybe it’s just a bad regulation. Really could be either way.
    - propertymagnate 4y ago
      Ha okay fair point on how much people ethically rate the actions people are trying to ban/regulate here, but the EU aren't creating convoluted cookie pops forcing anyone to do anything. Those people are part of that literally everyone else you're proposing. Unless your point is the legislation didn't go far enough? I didn't personally read it that way.
      - AbrahamParangi 4y ago
        Really the point is that while the intentions are reasonable, leaders must be judged by outcomes. It is necessary but not sufficient for leaders to do the right thing. They must also achieve the right outcome. This is a harsh rule and requires commensurate power to be fair (which is why we don’t apply it in all aspects of life) but it is both fair and necessary when applied to leaders. Now, I believe this and you’ll find this belief implicit in much of the criticism of the EU regulatory directives but a reasonable person might disagree.

toyg 4y ago

> t is built around the foundation of a single market, removing barriers to trade across countries. Somewhat ironically, that's also the basic principle enshrining the primacy of the US federal government - rules for interstate commerce. The main difference between the US system and EU system is that one was effectively built top-down, and the other bottom-up. At some point, they will likely reach a similar equilibrium, with US states becoming more and more independent and EU states less and less so.

seanw444 4y ago
> with US states becoming more and more independent I can only dream.
- toyg 4y ago
  I see it as inevitable. As population grows even in remote areas, the system will have to accept that certain issues are unreconcilable at federal level. Chances are you already know what those issues are, but the list can only grow.

AbrahamParangi 4y ago

Moving the blame from the EU data privacy rules to literally everyone else is frankly just ridiculous.

propertymagnate 4y ago
Your honour I hold it was not my client who did wrong, but the person who made the law banning murder in the first place.
- AbrahamParangi 4y ago
  Yes, well, maybe this particular regulation introduced in 2018 has the moral universality of murder or maybe it’s just a bad regulation. Really could be either way.
  - propertymagnate 4y ago
    Ha okay fair point on how much people ethically rate the actions people are trying to ban/regulate here, but the EU aren't creating convoluted cookie pops forcing anyone to do anything. Those people are part of that literally everyone else you're proposing. Unless your point is the legislation didn't go far enough? I didn't personally read it that way.
    - AbrahamParangi 4y ago
      Really the point is that while the intentions are reasonable, leaders must be judged by outcomes. It is necessary but not sufficient for leaders to do the right thing. They must also achieve the right outcome. This is a harsh rule and requires commensurate power to be fair (which is why we don’t apply it in all aspects of life) but it is both fair and necessary when applied to leaders. Now, I believe this and you’ll find this belief implicit in much of the criticism of the EU regulatory directives but a reasonable person might disagree.