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No? It’s about convenience. My town actually has a little bus line. But the closest bus stop is a mile and a half or so away from my house. How do I get the

by xienze 4y ago

No? It’s about convenience. My town actually has a little bus line. But the closest bus stop is a mile and a half or so away from my house. How do I get there? Walk? Once I get there, I have to wait for the bus, which could mean a wait of at least ten minutes or so. Assuming it’s not late. Let’s assume it drops me off exactly where I want to go — the grocery store 5 miles from my house. Now let’s also assume the bus doesn’t make any other stops and takes the most direct route possible. Great, I’ve spent at least 45 minutes each way to make a 5 mile trip. And I’m limited to buying only as much as I can comfortably carry. And oh yeah, I have to walk another mile and a half with those bags once I’m dropped off. But yeah, my objection is sitting in a bus with poor people.

noahtallen 4y ago
Your argument isn’t really that cars are superior to the bus in general, just that your local public transit is poorly designed. When everyone treats this argument as if cars are always superior no matter what, no one wants to invest in making public transit actually better.
- ThunderSizzle 4y ago
  Well, the problem is we have to take what we have. The argument that someone a country away lives a way because of some sort of pride is plain arrogance. We use cars because there is no reasonable alternative for most people. If we even try to consider alternatives, there simply isn't nothing short of wasting half a day on public transit. It's not that public transit is superior, or that cars are superior. It's that method A is the most reasonable way to get around nearly 99% of the trips I need to take, and is affordable for me, so I will take that. In Europe, that tends to be bikes and public transit. In America, it's personal vehicles. It's the nature we're both in. That in of itself doesn't make one superior to the other.

by xienze 4y ago

noahtallen 4y ago

Your argument isn’t really that cars are superior to the bus in general, just that your local public transit is poorly designed. When everyone treats this argument as if cars are always superior no matter what, no one wants to invest in making public transit actually better.

ThunderSizzle 4y ago
Well, the problem is we have to take what we have. The argument that someone a country away lives a way because of some sort of pride is plain arrogance. We use cars because there is no reasonable alternative for most people. If we even try to consider alternatives, there simply isn't nothing short of wasting half a day on public transit. It's not that public transit is superior, or that cars are superior. It's that method A is the most reasonable way to get around nearly 99% of the trips I need to take, and is affordable for me, so I will take that. In Europe, that tends to be bikes and public transit. In America, it's personal vehicles. It's the nature we're both in. That in of itself doesn't make one superior to the other.