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I do about 100kWh/day but I have a 4000 sqft house in an city that’s 100F with 100% humidity half the year and I have two electric cars.

Diesel555 4y ago
I just ran my last year's electricity. I'm around 26 kWh/d in the DC area in an old inefficient house around 1500 ft^2. While it had a gas stove, gas water heating, and gas house heating, it did have electric window AC units. I'd be really interested in how the previous author had 6-8 kWh/d.
- zbrozek 4y ago
  I used about 8 KWh/day when I lived alone in a 1550 sqft townhouse with gas heat and cooking. That ran my IT equipment, refrigerator, and blower fans for heating and exhaust. No AC usage. Now I'm in single family home and my energy use is bonkers, but most of that is heating while I'm missing part of my roof and an entire exterior wall. It should be criminal for a town to take two years to approve permits.
- kalnins 4y ago
  I'm using 5-7 kWh/d. Pretty constant. Includes washing machine and induction stove, but excludes heating the apartment and hot water.
14 4y ago
My last bill I ran 95kWh/day. Smaller house but have several adults and even more kids who all shower and do laundry as well as other things. I wish I could get it down half as much I don't see how I could at this point.
- serpix 4y ago
  A air-water heatpump for heating that shower water would pay itself back in a few months. Solar panels would get the rest. Water is probably your biggest energy sink.
thepangolino 4y ago
Damn. That would come to about USD 18k a year where I am.
kenrik 4y ago
Hello fellow Texan.
jrslv 4y ago
Wow, how is 100 kWh/day even possible? We consume about 3 kWh/day (excl. heating) in our standard-sized 2-person Dutch household, living pretty normal life.
- sgt 4y ago
  24kWh a day here. Fairly large house near Cape Town, South Africa. This is excluding heating in winter, for which we mainly use a slow combustion fireplace and also natural gas. Stove is also natural gas. Rarely use AC for cooling.
- pleb_nz 4y ago
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- gog 4y ago
  You can do 3kWh maybe if you are not cooking using electricity or running a cleaning machine for dishes or clothes. I've installed an electricity meter 2 weeks ago, and the lowest it got was 4,8 kWh/day in a 2-person Croatian household, although I do have a small Synology NAS running 24/7 and we have a TV on for a couple of hours.
  - jrslv 4y ago
    We do 3kWh/d including a dishwasher and washing machine, electric oven, kettle etc. We use gas stove and we don't have air conditioning.
    - teekert 4y ago
      2 Adults, 2 kids, also close to 10 kWh per day (cooking on electricity (induction) but showering on natural gas, 0.6-0.8 m3/day). When we are not home, it's about 4 kWh per day (2 freezers, 1 fridge, home server, router etc). Big sources are Laundry, dishwasher, hot water in the kitchen (5L boiler). But we heat the house on gas, and last december we burned about 180 m3 of it. Now, during summer, (in the Netherlands) we don't need heating or air-conditioning.
ornornor 4y ago
That is obscenely high. Where I live, it would cost over ~~150k~~ 7k USD to use that much power every day for a whole year. How is it even possible to use this much energy??
- tmalsburg2 4y ago
  This means that you pay ~4 USD per kWH. That's almost 12 times more expensive than in Germany where electricity is supposedly expensive. Where do you live?
  - ornornor 4y ago
    I pay around 0.20/kWh, but I made a mistake in my calculations! It would “only” cost 600$/month or 7’200 a year.
- andruby 4y ago
  You pay more than 4 USD per KWh? Wow. Do you mind shared where this is?
  - ornornor 4y ago
    I pay around 0.20/kWh, but I made a mistake in my calculations! It would “only” cost 600$/month or 7’200 a year.
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markvdb 4y ago
I ran your figures through a local price comparison engine. [0] Cheapest rate for you here would be ~12800€, or ~$13400/year. For reference, that's slightly less than half the median net income here. [1] I also made a quick price comparison between the US and here: - electricity? US: 0.14€/kWh [2]; here: ~0.30€/kWh [0] - diesel? US: 1.40€/l [3]; here: 2.19€/l [4] - gasoline? US: 1.26€/l [5]; here: 2.39€/l [4] - natural gas? US: 0.44€/m³ [6]; here: 1.16€/m³ [7] My conclusion is the US provide a reference framework of cheap abundant energy. The environmentally conscious have to deal with a framework that stimulates unbridled energy consumption, with hardly any real incentives for conserving energy. [0] https://vtest.vreg.be https://vtest.vreg.be [1] https://www.vlaanderen.be/statistiek-vlaanderen/inkomen-en-armoede/huishoudinkomen https://www.vlaanderen.be/statistiek-vlaanderen/inkomen-en-a... [2] https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.php?t=epmt_5_6_a https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.ph... [3] https://www.statista.com/statistics/204169/retail-prices-of-diesel-fuel-in-the-united-states-since-2009/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/204169/retail-prices-of-... [4] https://carbu.com/belgie/index.php/officieleprijs https://carbu.com/belgie/index.php/officieleprijs [5] https://gasprices.aaa.com/state-gas-price-averages/ https://gasprices.aaa.com/state-gas-price-averages/ [6] https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n3010us3m.htm https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n3010us3m.htm [7] https://www.ebem.be/mgt/803697.fil https://www.ebem.be/mgt/803697.fil
- markvdb 4y ago
  Update. Local price comparison site was just updated this morning. Price here would be between 14569€ (.40€/kWh) and 17308€ (.47€/kWh) depending on the supplier chose. This includes all taxes and surcharges.
  - tralarpa 4y ago
    But you live in an expensive European country. Shouldn't you compare your prices to expensive US states? Or European averages to US averages?
serpix 4y ago
Something is off here, even if both your cars use about 40kWh per day, every day (which is humongous) that would still leave an absolutely staggering 60kWh/day. That would be the same as heating with electric alone a house in the Nordic Lapland during winter.
- vardump 4y ago
  60 kWh/day would not be enough to heat a modest sized house (~2000 sqft) in Lapland, even with geothermal heating. Unless you meant 100 kWh/day, which would be doable, but I think only with geothermal.
  - serpix 4y ago
    Given a COP of 5 for a ground source heat pump you can calculate 60/24 is 2,5kW power draw around the clock. Multiply by 5 give 12,5kW heat non stop. That is a lot of heat. 2000 sqft is 185m2 which is a mansion by my standards though :)
  - goodpoint 4y ago
    2000 sqft and you call it modest? And 60 kWh/day is still enormous.
    - vardump 4y ago
      60 kWh/day is definitely not much in climate where temperature can go below -40F/-40C.
      - goodpoint 4y ago
        21900 KWh in a year is not much according to what source?
    - dfadsadsf 4y ago
      Average sq ft for house in US is around 2500sq ft so 2000 sq ft is below median. Ok starter house but not more than that. I understand that houses in Europe are much smaller though due to low incomes and higher utility costs. I have 2800 sq ft house and use around 30-35 kWh/day in summer. 60kWh/day is high but not outrageously high.

Diesel555 4y ago

I just ran my last year's electricity. I'm around 26 kWh/d in the DC area in an old inefficient house around 1500 ft^2. While it had a gas stove, gas water heating, and gas house heating, it did have electric window AC units. I'd be really interested in how the previous author had 6-8 kWh/d.

zbrozek 4y ago
I used about 8 KWh/day when I lived alone in a 1550 sqft townhouse with gas heat and cooking. That ran my IT equipment, refrigerator, and blower fans for heating and exhaust. No AC usage. Now I'm in single family home and my energy use is bonkers, but most of that is heating while I'm missing part of my roof and an entire exterior wall. It should be criminal for a town to take two years to approve permits.
kalnins 4y ago
I'm using 5-7 kWh/d. Pretty constant. Includes washing machine and induction stove, but excludes heating the apartment and hot water.

14 4y ago

My last bill I ran 95kWh/day. Smaller house but have several adults and even more kids who all shower and do laundry as well as other things. I wish I could get it down half as much I don't see how I could at this point.

serpix 4y ago
A air-water heatpump for heating that shower water would pay itself back in a few months. Solar panels would get the rest. Water is probably your biggest energy sink.

thepangolino 4y ago

Damn. That would come to about USD 18k a year where I am.

kenrik 4y ago

Hello fellow Texan.

jrslv 4y ago

Wow, how is 100 kWh/day even possible? We consume about 3 kWh/day (excl. heating) in our standard-sized 2-person Dutch household, living pretty normal life.

sgt 4y ago
24kWh a day here. Fairly large house near Cape Town, South Africa. This is excluding heating in winter, for which we mainly use a slow combustion fireplace and also natural gas. Stove is also natural gas. Rarely use AC for cooling.
pleb_nz 4y ago
80 here
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gog 4y ago
You can do 3kWh maybe if you are not cooking using electricity or running a cleaning machine for dishes or clothes. I've installed an electricity meter 2 weeks ago, and the lowest it got was 4,8 kWh/day in a 2-person Croatian household, although I do have a small Synology NAS running 24/7 and we have a TV on for a couple of hours.
- jrslv 4y ago
  We do 3kWh/d including a dishwasher and washing machine, electric oven, kettle etc. We use gas stove and we don't have air conditioning.
  - teekert 4y ago
    2 Adults, 2 kids, also close to 10 kWh per day (cooking on electricity (induction) but showering on natural gas, 0.6-0.8 m3/day). When we are not home, it's about 4 kWh per day (2 freezers, 1 fridge, home server, router etc). Big sources are Laundry, dishwasher, hot water in the kitchen (5L boiler). But we heat the house on gas, and last december we burned about 180 m3 of it. Now, during summer, (in the Netherlands) we don't need heating or air-conditioning.

ornornor 4y ago

That is obscenely high. Where I live, it would cost over ~~150k~~ 7k USD to use that much power every day for a whole year. How is it even possible to use this much energy??

tmalsburg2 4y ago
This means that you pay ~4 USD per kWH. That's almost 12 times more expensive than in Germany where electricity is supposedly expensive. Where do you live?
- ornornor 4y ago
  I pay around 0.20/kWh, but I made a mistake in my calculations! It would “only” cost 600$/month or 7’200 a year.
andruby 4y ago
You pay more than 4 USD per KWh? Wow. Do you mind shared where this is?
- ornornor 4y ago
  I pay around 0.20/kWh, but I made a mistake in my calculations! It would “only” cost 600$/month or 7’200 a year.
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markvdb 4y ago

I ran your figures through a local price comparison engine. [0] Cheapest rate for you here would be ~12800€, or ~$13400/year. For reference, that's slightly less than half the median net income here. [1] I also made a quick price comparison between the US and here: - electricity? US: 0.14€/kWh [2]; here: ~0.30€/kWh [0] - diesel? US: 1.40€/l [3]; here: 2.19€/l [4] - gasoline? US: 1.26€/l [5]; here: 2.39€/l [4] - natural gas? US: 0.44€/m³ [6]; here: 1.16€/m³ [7] My conclusion is the US provide a reference framework of cheap abundant energy. The environmentally conscious have to deal with a framework that stimulates unbridled energy consumption, with hardly any real incentives for conserving energy. [0] https://vtest.vreg.be https://vtest.vreg.be [1] https://www.vlaanderen.be/statistiek-vlaanderen/inkomen-en-armoede/huishoudinkomen https://www.vlaanderen.be/statistiek-vlaanderen/inkomen-en-a... [2] https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.php?t=epmt_5_6_a https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.ph... [3] https://www.statista.com/statistics/204169/retail-prices-of-diesel-fuel-in-the-united-states-since-2009/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/204169/retail-prices-of-... [4] https://carbu.com/belgie/index.php/officieleprijs https://carbu.com/belgie/index.php/officieleprijs [5] https://gasprices.aaa.com/state-gas-price-averages/ https://gasprices.aaa.com/state-gas-price-averages/ [6] https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n3010us3m.htm https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n3010us3m.htm [7] https://www.ebem.be/mgt/803697.fil https://www.ebem.be/mgt/803697.fil

markvdb 4y ago
Update. Local price comparison site was just updated this morning. Price here would be between 14569€ (.40€/kWh) and 17308€ (.47€/kWh) depending on the supplier chose. This includes all taxes and surcharges.
- tralarpa 4y ago
  But you live in an expensive European country. Shouldn't you compare your prices to expensive US states? Or European averages to US averages?

serpix 4y ago

Something is off here, even if both your cars use about 40kWh per day, every day (which is humongous) that would still leave an absolutely staggering 60kWh/day. That would be the same as heating with electric alone a house in the Nordic Lapland during winter.

vardump 4y ago
60 kWh/day would not be enough to heat a modest sized house (~2000 sqft) in Lapland, even with geothermal heating. Unless you meant 100 kWh/day, which would be doable, but I think only with geothermal.
- serpix 4y ago
  Given a COP of 5 for a ground source heat pump you can calculate 60/24 is 2,5kW power draw around the clock. Multiply by 5 give 12,5kW heat non stop. That is a lot of heat. 2000 sqft is 185m2 which is a mansion by my standards though :)
- goodpoint 4y ago
  2000 sqft and you call it modest? And 60 kWh/day is still enormous.
  - vardump 4y ago
    60 kWh/day is definitely not much in climate where temperature can go below -40F/-40C.
    - goodpoint 4y ago
      21900 KWh in a year is not much according to what source?
  - dfadsadsf 4y ago
    Average sq ft for house in US is around 2500sq ft so 2000 sq ft is below median. Ok starter house but not more than that. I understand that houses in Europe are much smaller though due to low incomes and higher utility costs. I have 2800 sq ft house and use around 30-35 kWh/day in summer. 60kWh/day is high but not outrageously high.