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Uh, you might well be right but you should really read the transcript before you jump to that conclusion [0]. I have no idea whether this is true or not but if

Uh, you might well be right but you should really read the transcript before you jump to that conclusion [0]. I have no idea whether this is true or not but if anyone in the world has the compute capacity to create a compute system to rival a human brain (or 10000x that of a human brain), Google would be it. [0] https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917 https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-inte...

cpncrunch 4y ago
This isn't about the chat transcript, it's about Lemoine's (incorrect) interpretation that the machine is indeed sentient and hiring an attorney to represent the AI. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jun/12/google-engineer-ai-bot-sentient-blake-lemoine https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jun/12/google-en... It sounds like he went a bit off the rails.
- 0des 4y ago
  I get the vibe that they wanted it to be true so bad, and were failed by a few layers of checks that should have told them to examine their role requirements with the company. Everyone acts like this is an ethics issue, when it is actually an employee breaking and making rules as they go and being shocked at the logical outcome.
Planktonne 4y ago
It's not true. It feels true because you want it to be, and because we are adept at extracting meaning that may or may not be there from text, images, and anything else [1]. But it's not true, for the same reason that horoscopes don't truly understand you as a person, and fortune cookies don't know the future: we ascribe meaning to things that isn't really there. I don't know much about cars, and how the internal combustion engine works, but I know they aren't dragons. Things that we don't understand don't have to be magic; they can also be sleight of hand or wish-fulfillment or just something else. The transcript is cool because LLMs are cool - they produce text that looks meaningful without being created by a human! That's really exciting. We can be excited about that without fooling ourselves that we've done something completely different. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
culpable_pickle 4y ago
Reading one edited chat transcript shouldn't give you any concern around if the program is sentient. It waits for input and responds. Yes, it's advanced. Yes, it has deep levels of material to reference, but it's not sentient.
- jameshart 4y ago
  It remembers what it has said and what is said to it. It changes its internal state to select different responses in the future based on those experiences. Subjectively, I'm not sure I would claim that I do anything more than that, and I'm pretty sure I'm sentient. Just because it's not running in between REPLs doesn't seem like enough to dismiss it. If you want to, you could just update it with no input once every second. Its internal state will mutate, as it processes on what it's said and the lack of input it's receiving. Perhaps when you finally send it some actual input, its response will reflect what it processed during the pause. Maybe it will be bored, or annoyed that you left it alone.
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0110101001 4y ago
Note the the human-conversation-mimicking algorithm only behaves this way when prompted to mimic the conversation of a sentient chatbot.

cpncrunch 4y ago

This isn't about the chat transcript, it's about Lemoine's (incorrect) interpretation that the machine is indeed sentient and hiring an attorney to represent the AI. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jun/12/google-engineer-ai-bot-sentient-blake-lemoine https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jun/12/google-en... It sounds like he went a bit off the rails.

0des 4y ago
I get the vibe that they wanted it to be true so bad, and were failed by a few layers of checks that should have told them to examine their role requirements with the company. Everyone acts like this is an ethics issue, when it is actually an employee breaking and making rules as they go and being shocked at the logical outcome.

Planktonne 4y ago

It's not true. It feels true because you want it to be, and because we are adept at extracting meaning that may or may not be there from text, images, and anything else [1]. But it's not true, for the same reason that horoscopes don't truly understand you as a person, and fortune cookies don't know the future: we ascribe meaning to things that isn't really there. I don't know much about cars, and how the internal combustion engine works, but I know they aren't dragons. Things that we don't understand don't have to be magic; they can also be sleight of hand or wish-fulfillment or just something else. The transcript is cool because LLMs are cool - they produce text that looks meaningful without being created by a human! That's really exciting. We can be excited about that without fooling ourselves that we've done something completely different. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

culpable_pickle 4y ago

Reading one edited chat transcript shouldn't give you any concern around if the program is sentient. It waits for input and responds. Yes, it's advanced. Yes, it has deep levels of material to reference, but it's not sentient.

jameshart 4y ago
It remembers what it has said and what is said to it. It changes its internal state to select different responses in the future based on those experiences. Subjectively, I'm not sure I would claim that I do anything more than that, and I'm pretty sure I'm sentient. Just because it's not running in between REPLs doesn't seem like enough to dismiss it. If you want to, you could just update it with no input once every second. Its internal state will mutate, as it processes on what it's said and the lack of input it's receiving. Perhaps when you finally send it some actual input, its response will reflect what it processed during the pause. Maybe it will be bored, or annoyed that you left it alone.
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0110101001 4y ago

Note the the human-conversation-mimicking algorithm only behaves this way when prompted to mimic the conversation of a sentient chatbot.