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I appreciate the intent, and I understand that many people will do the wrong thing so this was probably an attempt to get such folks to actually read and adhere
by claviska 4y ago
I appreciate the intent, and I understand that many people will do the wrong thing so this was probably an attempt to get such folks to actually read and adhere to the TOS, but the obnoxious consent dialog with a mandatory countdown turned me off. It’s probably not effective, either.
On desktop, maybe I’d open dev tools and remove it. On mobile, I won’t be bothered. I hate that this is what the web has become and I choose to simply miss out on websites that behave this way.
- sophiebits 4y agoWeird, I read through the text because I care about how I’m allowed to use the things people are giving me – and by the time I got to the Accept button, it was enabled.
- tesrx 4y agoI guess the creator added that specifically for the YouTubers and TikTokers who failed to credit the site: https://twitter.com/fifteenai/status/1522289980420337666 https://twitter.com/fifteenai/status/1522289980420337666
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- daniel_iversen 4y agoSame here. And I figured if a hobby project had such a disclaimer it would be important and so I was interested to read what the rules were. But how spoiled and precious are we all today when we can’t even read a few paragraphs and accept some terms to be able to try something cool for free!
- what-imright 4y agoit kind of sucks, not accurate or convincing. if they spent less time making the disclaimer and more on the product… Reminds me of the 90s when everyone had a secret weapon IP in the making, until open source showed by example how futile and silly that approach was. You want people to use your work, because then they need you.
- jhanschoo 4y agoAfter reading the replies of the creator here on the effort that they have put into the project, would you still stand by this opinion?
- what-imright 4y agoWell, lets not confuse well intentions and hard circumstances with bad product and poor execution. My criticism is of what I experienced as a user, and it really doesn’t matter what the hacker news community or myself thinks, what the OP cares about is the user experience of a larger group. If you burn the user at the door it sets the tone of the experience and further, again, the product wasn’t impressive and the IP not worth defending. I mean where is this even going? If you train on actors voices they will come at you with an army of lawyers. Spongebob squarepants imitations aren’t going to pay the rent. There’s no game plan here
- grog454 4y agoI prefer to know what it is I'm being given before I decide whether its worth it to figure out how I'm allowed to use it. To each their own.
- darkerside 4y agoI just want you to know that it was absolutely hilarious to hear (the first half of) this read in the voice of SpongeBob SquarePants.
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- jmspring 4y agoI closed the page at the 15 second count down.
- dheera 4y agoTo use 15.ai without accepting the TOS just paste this in the console document.querySelector('.vm--modal').remove();document.querySelector('.vm--container').remove(); Or add it to some default script that is applied to all pages, that way when you visit 15.ai you never even see the TOS box in the first place.
- 15ai 4y agoIt seems a bit overkill to do this instead of just waiting 10 seconds to click on the little green button, but I suppose this is a viable alternative.
- dheera 4y agoThe main difference is you get to use the service without actually agreeing to any TOS. But also, 10 seconds is extremely annoying.
- 15ai 4y agoI'm afraid it's a necessity after all the times that my work has been appropriated by companies and TikTokers/YouTubers. Yes, I am fully aware that most people will not read it. But at least I tried.
- dheera 4y ago(I mean, what I was saying is by getting rid of the box in the DOM, you avoid the issue of the TOS altogether since you "walk around it" instead of agreeing to it.) Aren't we all appropriating the work of Newton, Maxwell, Einstein, and others? It's not like Maxwell's equations are copyrighted. You're entitled to your opinions, but as a PhD myself I'd rather my research get used by people than end up in a copyright junkyard of things people can't use.
- 15ai 4y agoI'd argue that there is a rather massive difference between invoking Maxwell's equations to invent GPS and literally plagiarizing my work by using it to broker partnerships with celebrities and subsequently selling my work as NFTs. (Yes, this really happened - I'm not making this up.)
- what-imright 4y agocouldn’t agree more, the web has become user hostile and I will boycott sites and their services and products if they disrespect me by wasting my time try to trick me into agreeing to a list of smallprint demands
- dheera 4y agoOh yep. I'll be reading an article and a damn popup appears midway through a sentence. I usually just quit the website at that point. I hope their bounce detectors pick up on it.
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