> literally zero impact outside of the Apple echo chamber I expected this to be the case 2 years ago, but since then it seems like Apple Silicon is legitimate

> literally zero impact outside of the Apple echo chamber I expected this to be the case 2 years ago, but since then it seems like Apple Silicon is legitimate competition. I don't think it's irrelevant. If they continue to pull forward, it will have an effect on the market outside of where Apple currently does business. > products based on the Apple chips are underwhelming, considering that Apple has full control of the hardware and software I can't speak for anyone else. I find them to be very impressive though, and it looks like they've started on an impressive trajectory. The hardware is exceeding my expectations by a wide margin. I agree that the software could be better, but it could have been with or without their move to their own silicon. It's been in gradual decline for a while, I think.