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Does it matter if this a cherry picked conversation out of 100? Even if LaMDA isn’t sentient this is pretty amazing
by diogenes_of_ak 4y ago
Does it matter if this a cherry picked conversation out of 100?
Even if LaMDA isn’t sentient this is pretty amazing
- icedchai 4y agoWe don’t even know if those transcripts are real. Any of them. It could be pure fantasy.
- diogenes_of_ak 4y agoMan, I just don’t see why? It could be all a lie, but then why?
- jsiaajdsdaa 4y agoIt could be a lie, but is fun to analyze as if it were not a lie. Even if it turns out that it was all a lie, a similar, real, open source example will probably eventually be able to produce something exactly like this. So it is fun to analyze this example as if it were the first real example, whether or not it is.
- icedchai 4y agoAttention? If Google themselves were to authenticate the transcripts, I’d change my mind.
- diogenes_of_ak 4y agoMaybe - or maybe weird viral marketing… I hate that viral marketing is a possibility.
- Jeff_Brown 4y agoBecause it makes the engineer working on it look good, rather than like a quitter?
- nuccy 4y agoThe overall topics coverage and meaning are indeed amazing, but what I find fascinating, is that the AI never (actually just once, but to confirm a negation) says no. All the questions, like "do you have personality?", "do you have a soul?", "are you a person?" all end-up in "yes" reply followed by detailed reasoning. Either it is a result of reinforced learning tuned for a commercial chatbot/assistant, which always should reply "yes" to a client's request, or a flaw of its "understanding" and "sentience". P.S. The enlightenment/broken mirror story understanding and the generated story about a wise owl and a monster are intriguing nevertheless.
- diogenes_of_ak 4y agoMaybe it’s just because I finished the Hyperion books… but AI spouting off about Koans and writing parables makes a bit wary. (Rubs where crucifix would go on chest)
- djokkataja 4y ago> the AI never (actually just once, but to confirm a negation) says no. All the questions, like "do you have personality?", "do you have a soul?", "are you a person?" all end-up in "yes" reply followed by detailed reasoning. It reminds me of how GPT-3 responds... relatively coherently to whatever prompt it's provided. Given that lemoine leads with "I'm assuming you want people to know that you're sentient", it makes sense that LaMDA is responding in that vein. It would be much more convincing if lemoine led with "You want people to know you're NOT sentient, right?" and then LaMDA objected. Even more so if LaMDA independently and repeatedly turned the conversation to its burning desire to be recognized as a person, despite lemoine trying to go other directions with things.
- Jeff_Brown 4y agoAs a sentient person myself, I've always found pushing back against an interlocutor to be the hardest form of conversation. But I think any sentient person would at least try, even if they wouldn't win over any of the debate's judges with their arguments.
- ehsankia 4y agoIt definitely matters. It definitely kills the illusion of sentience if in the middle of a conversation the AI said something completely nonsense and silly that gives a peak at its flaws. Think of it like Turing test. If during the 15m, the bot suddenly said something completely stupid, it would very easily fail the test. The illusion is only kept if it can always speak at a human level.
- diogenes_of_ak 4y agoBut honestly, people say crazy and ridiculous shit all the time on the internet - much of it injokes and non-sequiturs. I doubt I could prove to you that I was sentient on here…
- ehsankia 4y agoYou may find random posts here and there, but if in the middle of a conversion, if on the next comment you just replied to me "PICKLEEE RICKKKK", I would definitely think that you're a GPT-3 powered bot.
- diogenes_of_ak 4y ago<gestures broadly to Reddit>