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“"We were unable to fit a headphone jack within the chassis, based off the aggressive design and portability goals we chartered for XPS 13," is at least more ho
by loloquwowndueo 4y ago
“"We were unable to fit a headphone jack within the chassis, based off the aggressive design and portability goals we chartered for XPS 13," is at least more honest than Apple saying “have courage” and “you’re using it wrong”.
That said I probably only use my xps13’s headphone jack a couple of times a year. If it broke today I would need a usb-c- based alternative but frankly I would probably put it off for months.
edit: the things are like $20 on Amazon.
- DanAtC 4y agoBut there's only two USB-C ports and USB-C hubs don't exist. If you're charging your laptop and using a headphone adapter you're SOL if you need to plug anything else in. Edit: USB-C only hubs. Everything I've seen is USB-C to USB-A/HDMI/Ethernet/Audio (though that resolves the above problem if the DAC is decent enough) There _are_ Thunderbolt docks (which this XPS 13 supports) which provide USB-C ports but they're pricey.
- withinboredom 4y agoUSB-C hubs do exist, my monitor has one built in. Works fine.
- DanAtC 4y agoIs it actually Thunderbolt not plain USB-C?
- microtonal 4y agoMany displays (like some consumer-oriented LG models) don't use Thunderbolt. Two USB-C lanes are used for DisplayPort Alt-Mode (usually with HBR3 for e.g. 4k@60Hz) and two lanes for some USB3 variant.
- puslog 4y ago> USB-C hubs don't exist Say what? I have one right here on my desk. You can get them for like $20 on Amazon etc.
- DanAtC 4y agoEdited my comment. Does it do one USB-C to multiple USB-C ports or is it USB-C to USB-A?
- haswell 4y ago> USB-C hubs don't exist What do you mean? A quick search returns several options. Personally I have an all-in-one USB-C to HDMI/SD/USB-A/headphone/etc dock dongle thing, and it covers my needs. There are a bunch of options for this, some more flexible than others, but options nonetheless.
- DanAtC 4y agoI meant one USB-C to many USB-C
- filoleg 4y agoIf it is a thunderbolt USB-C, then they do. I had a thunderbolt 3 dock for my older macbook, and it essentially connected with just one cable to macbook, which provided charging+external display (or two) connection+a few extra USB ports (a couple of which were usb-C)+headphone jack+SD card reader (and maybe a few other things I cannot recall off the top of my head).
- andrewmackrodt 4y agoNot sure if something like this would work on non Apple hardware: Satechi 4-Port USB-C Hub - https://amzn.eu/d/6a85dgf https://amzn.eu/d/6a85dgf I have a Dell XPS 2in1 from 2019 which only has 2 USB-C ports, however, I'm using a thunderbolt dock so I get a USB-C port back and a USB-C display port output on the back, have never tried connecting a device to it to though. Anker also have some hubs with one USB-C input and one PD.
- vladvasiliu 4y ago> Edit: USB-C only hubs. Everything I've seen is USB-C to USB-A/HDMI/Ethernet/Audio (though that resolves the above problem if the DAC is decent enough) There _are_ Thunderbolt docks (which this XPS 13 supports) which provide USB-C ports but they're pricey. Although they're not USB-C only, I have two hubs that expose a USB-C connector (for data, not just PD). One HP USB-C Dock G5 and some random Chinese thing off Amazon [0]. They're both USB, not thunderbolt. The HP is absurdly expensive, the second one is ok-ish (cost me €80). But they're both quite big, and the HP is heavy, so wouldn't be great to use at, say, a coffee shop. They both have sound cards and a 3.5 mm jack. The DAC on the Chinese one isn't as good as the one on my HP laptop, but it's decent, no background noise or anything. Haven't tested the HP. They're both able to power the computer through the USB-C port. --- [0] https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B09MTTZ36K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8 https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B09MTTZ36K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_...
- MrPatan 4y agoThat's ok, all the xps I've had has faulty audio jacks, might as well save the space
- plonk 4y ago> “you’re using it wrong” When my high-end XPS started shutting down under any kind of load, the Dell support closed my complaint and told me "this laptop is not meant for gaming, it's your fault". Went to Apple the next time, at least their products usually stay awake while I use them.
- loloquwowndueo 4y agoBut you then said a driver downgrade fixed it. Remind me again of the software fix for the iPhone 4 “holding it wrong” debacle.
- plonk 4y agoThe iPhone 4 came out in 2010 and I haven't suffered that kind of debacle since then. The problems I've had with Apple products are minor in comparison to Dell's. When I've contacted Apple's support, they've always been reactive and never tried to tell me the bugs were my fault. I've never had another company throw my ticket away with as obviously dishonest a reason as "you're not supposed to actually use your graphics card for graphics" and prevent me from following up. The fact that a guy on Reddit was more helpful than the support isn't acceptable.
- sschueller 4y agoI assume they don't exist to avoid confusion when you can't plug in 127 displays. Then again USB-C is already a huge mess.
- duped 4y agoI use my XPS 13's headphone jack daily when I'm working and in meetings. If I had my way I'd disable microphones on every video call participant that wasn't wearing headphones too.
- loloquwowndueo 4y agoI use headphones daily (at least 3h a day) for meetings mostly but not the headphone jack ;) wireless headsets are very useful.