Similar story here. I started with X10 and upgraded to Insteon because of the X10 reliability & communication problems. I never bought a hub because I did not

Similar story here. I started with X10 and upgraded to Insteon because of the X10 reliability & communication problems. I never bought a hub because I did not like being dependent on Internet services to control my house. I do have a few PLMs and a bunch of remote control units that I'm not using, and probably will never use, so I'm going to list them all on eBay! Thanks for the tip! Insteon made great hardware, but I recently discovered Lutron Caseta and now I like them better. Their switches do a much better job with LED lighting. (No flickering.)