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After 2 years of therapy I'm convinced that psychologist are the sarcedotal class of our time. Like astrology in Imperial China, psychology serves as the scienc
by annyeonghada 4y ago
After 2 years of therapy I'm convinced that psychologist are the sarcedotal class of our time. Like astrology in Imperial China, psychology serves as the science for ad hoc justification.
- flybrand 4y agosac·er·do·tal /ˌsasərˈdōdl,ˌsakərˈdōdl/ Learn to pronounce adjective relating to priests or the priesthood; priestly. THEOLOGY relating to or denoting a doctrine which ascribes sacrificial functions and spiritual or supernatural powers to ordained priests.
- annyeonghada 4y agoYes, I can read the dictionary, thank you. Nevertheless, I will respond to your implied objection instead of whatever you wrote. 1. Check the definition of an analogy (this is the case where the dictionary is actually useful), maybe it will make clear why what I wrote was not meant as a perfect depiction of reality; 2. Psychology has not really a good track as a science: between replication crisis, statistical illiteracy of the researchers, ideologically motivated reasoning and outright fraud it is not clear to me that believing in Psychology is any different that believing in Theology: they are both self-consistent systems that fail to make prediction on the physical world and, while intellectually interesting and provocative, I would not like that anyone makes decisions about society and my life using concepts from these disciplines. P.S.: Actually, thank you for giving me the opportunity to reflect much more about the similarity between these two seemingly different disciplines.
- flybrand 4y ago> implied objection It is a cut-copy-paste definition of a rarely used word.
- glaugh 4y agoI believe flybrand had to look up the word and then just wanted to save time for other folks (like me) who might also have needed to do so :)
- flybrand 4y agoYes, that was exactly it. I didn’t know the word and figured others might not.
- robonerd 4y agoI interpreted the capitalization of 'THEOLOGY' as an alarmed objection to the comparison.
- wisemang 4y agoThe “learn to pronounce” made it seem pretty clear this was just copypasta, without any effort put into editing. The caps presumably just came from the dictionary’s styling. In this case indicating a more specific meaning in a particular field (theology). Like glaugh, I appreciated the definition of a new-to-me word appearing inline :)
- flybrand 4y agoYes, I was just trying to pass on something helpful based on my own ignorance.
- whiddershins 4y agoUnderstandable. Actually if you Google the word theology is in all caps in the definition so the intention of the comment is unclear.
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- dixie_land 4y agoYup. Unlike psychiatrists, psychologists are not MDs.
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- abirch 4y agoWhen you look at the history or psychology it's not great. Look no further than Hemingway
- pizza234 4y ago> After 2 years of therapy I'm convinced that psychologist are the sarcedotal class of our time. Like astrology in Imperial China [...] I know a few people who benefited from therapy; some very much. If you think your therapist is the equivalent of an astrologist, you should try another one; it's not unusual.
- robonerd 4y ago> you should try another one; If you try enough astrologers, fortune tellers or priests, you'll probably find one with the necessary life experience and empathy to earnestly benefit you. Their stated methods differ, but I think all these people are basically in the same line of work and, insofar as any of them are capable of helping others, they're all doing basically the same thing. They ask questions and have people talk about their problems, evaluate what they hear, and offer advice based on what you've said and their professional and personal experience. And all of them should be thrown out of court rooms. Expert testimony from fortune tellers and psychologists is trash as far as I'm concerned. Rolling for a new psychologist to help yourself get better is fine and dandy, but in an adversarial courtroom environment this whole thing breaks down. When your ex-spouse brings a psychologist to court to testify against you, you don't get to "try another" until you get good results. All you can really do is hire one of your own to throw shit back in the other direction. It's farcical.
- franga2000 4y ago> If you try enough astrologers, fortune tellers or priests, you'll probably find one with the necessary life experience and empathy to earnestly benefit you. You cannot be serious with this comparison. Changing therapists once or twice because different types of therapy work on different people and because you need to be comfortable around yoir therapist is in no way comparable to people dialing the TV astrologer every morning until the nonsense they literally make up on the spot happens to be what they meeded to hear by pure chance. Psychology might not be as rigorous of a science as physics or whatever, but it still follows the scientific method and therapy is primarily evidence-based. Would you also be so quick to compare a doctor trying multiple different antibiotics on a patient dying from an infection to repeatedly throwing a dart into a pharmacy and trying whatever it hits?
- dwaltrip 4y agoIt took me 4 attempts to find a therapist who is actually helpful for me. It’s a hard job.
- inglor_cz 4y agoInteresting, I would say the same about the Diversity, Inclusion and Equity "professionals".