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> Take the Jetbrains IDEs. I don't mean to offend any VSC fans out there but the Jetbrains IDEs are simply better and more mature in every single way. For indiv

> Take the Jetbrains IDEs. I don't mean to offend any VSC fans out there but the Jetbrains IDEs are simply better and more mature in every single way. For individual use, most of them are <$100/year. They just aren't, I would not switch to Jetbrains from VSCode even if it was free. It's not a question of pricing and Jetbrains themselves started to realise it since they are building some VSC clone (forgot the name right now)

elashri 4y ago
Their new VSC alternative name is fleet and I don't think they confirmed it will be free like VSCode though.
- realusername 4y ago
  Thanks for the name, I completely forgot about it. I'm totally fine paying for it if it's nice, it's just that I prefer something similar to VSCode rather than Jetbrains IDEs.
- diffeomorphism 4y ago
  Are you refering to free or free? Paying money I don't mind, but being non-free would be a big drawback.
jebronie 4y ago
They just are though, once you realise how much more powerful they are. I had a collegue until recently (he was let go), who was a staunch VSCode fan that refused to use Jetbrains IDEs. His code is terrible and riddled with bugs. Most of them were even easily detected by the Jetbrains IDEs. Now I have to clean up his shitty projects. He also spend a lot of time configuring his shitty VSCode instead of working.
- Volundr 4y ago
  I've tried IntelliJ for both Elixir and Clojure. While Cursive is ok, I can confidently say that the vscode Elixir support is far, far better, and in Cursive vs Cider I'd take Cider any day. Yeah, if your writing Kotlin/Java IntelliJ is a no-brainer, but for many of us the situation is much more nuanced.
- realusername 4y ago
  Oh yeah sure they are powerful, I don't deny that but I really hate the UX and the readability. At the end of the day, I don't really want to spend time to make it usable enough to my liking.
- ithrow 4y ago
  Expecting a IDE to fix someone's terrible code riddle with bugs non sequitur. What programming language was this?

elashri 4y ago

Their new VSC alternative name is fleet and I don't think they confirmed it will be free like VSCode though.

realusername 4y ago
Thanks for the name, I completely forgot about it. I'm totally fine paying for it if it's nice, it's just that I prefer something similar to VSCode rather than Jetbrains IDEs.
diffeomorphism 4y ago
Are you refering to free or free? Paying money I don't mind, but being non-free would be a big drawback.

jebronie 4y ago

They just are though, once you realise how much more powerful they are. I had a collegue until recently (he was let go), who was a staunch VSCode fan that refused to use Jetbrains IDEs. His code is terrible and riddled with bugs. Most of them were even easily detected by the Jetbrains IDEs. Now I have to clean up his shitty projects. He also spend a lot of time configuring his shitty VSCode instead of working.

Volundr 4y ago
I've tried IntelliJ for both Elixir and Clojure. While Cursive is ok, I can confidently say that the vscode Elixir support is far, far better, and in Cursive vs Cider I'd take Cider any day. Yeah, if your writing Kotlin/Java IntelliJ is a no-brainer, but for many of us the situation is much more nuanced.
realusername 4y ago
Oh yeah sure they are powerful, I don't deny that but I really hate the UX and the readability. At the end of the day, I don't really want to spend time to make it usable enough to my liking.
ithrow 4y ago
Expecting a IDE to fix someone's terrible code riddle with bugs non sequitur. What programming language was this?