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I suspect liking the taste is somewhat of a Pavlovian response to the effects caffeine once had on us when we were unaccustomed to the effects of caffeine. In o

I suspect liking the taste is somewhat of a Pavlovian response to the effects caffeine once had on us when we were unaccustomed to the effects of caffeine. In other words, I can't imagine many 15-year olds trying coffee for the first time, thinking "this tastes awesome." That'd explain why many people add sugar and milk into the coffee.

plonk 4y ago
I loved the smell of coffee before I started drinking it. The taste takes some getting used to but I liked it the first time anyway. I drink one cup a day with small effects but don't seem to get worse when I stop. It's very different from tobacco, where people seem to hate the first time and start liking it as the addiction sets up.
- krab 4y ago
  I absolutely love the smell of coffee. However, I don't enjoy drinking it in particular. I like it with a lot of milk and I find the taste of some coffee varieties quite interesting, enjoyable even. But not enough for daily drinking.
tetris11 4y ago
I think there are people who genuinely don't mind the taste, or at least acquire a palette for it. I for instance cannot handle the taste of many German beers. A Pils, sure; an IPA, if I have to; an English Ale fermented in a basement bartub, no problem. But a standard Helles, forget it - I've tried many times, it just doesn't take.
brokenkebab2 4y ago
>I suspect liking the taste is somewhat of a Pavlovian response to the effects caffeine Yup. Let's not forget added sugar however
im3w1l 4y ago
I find I often crave a taste sensation, any will do. Doesn't even have to be a taste I find pleasurable. Kinda to stave off boredom really. Tea (even herbal), coffee, soda or alcohol all scratch that itch.
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Broken_Hippo 4y ago
I don't. A lot of things with caffeine in them taste yummy, and the bitterness of coffee appeals to folks (just look at the popularity of bitter cocktails and other foods to see it in play in other areas). Not to mention that a fair amount of folks begin drinking coffee with milk and/or sugar in it - this is especially true if you start drinking coffee by drinking lattes. Plus, there is definitely a social component to drinking it if you are in the right area of the world (tea has some of the same social connections).
- philliphaydon 4y ago
  I mainly drink black coffee no sugar.
  - Broken_Hippo 4y ago
    As do I - but I started with cream and sugar. I quit using cream and sugar both because black coffee is easier and because I try to drink mostly unsweetened beverages. But not everyone follows our example, and that's really the point. (I'd probably edit to make it more clear, but that time has passed)
  - JoeAltmaier 4y ago
    I wonder if black coffee, which is objectively worse tasting and harder to drink, has something to do with the drinker accepting that it's no longer a social thing but now just feeding an addiction/self-medicating. So taking the 'pill' straight becomes a practical choice.
    - tharkun__ 4y ago
      I object to the word "objectively" there. Subjectively to you it is worse. I can't stand coffee with sugar. It's just a sugary drink, not coffee. I drink coffee either black or with a bit of milk - not coffee cream. Coffee does not taste bitter to me. Grapefruit on the other hand I cannot stand. I'll spit that out right away. I would say grapefruit is objectively the worst thing you can eat, yet I have to accept that it's definitely subjective as some people eat it without blinking an eye. Same goes with sour. I love sour stuff and things I drink and eat that are perfect, you might find "objectively too sour", while it's really subjective.
necheffa 4y ago
I add cream and sugar if I'm getting coffee out. At home, I'm drinking it black. Most places, especially ones that don't specialize in coffee, do not properly clean their equipment and prep the brew. If I was just a junkie, I would use cream and sugar at home too.
BaseballPhysics 4y ago
> I can't imagine many 15-year olds trying coffee for the first time, thinking "this tastes awesome." If that's your litmus test then no one would eat (warning: polarizing list approaching) durian or Vegemite or lutefisk. Acquired tastes are a thing. I personally used to hate olives and now I love them, and they don't, to my knowledge, induce positive psychoactive effects that would create a Pavlovian response.
- philliphaydon 4y ago
  I hated pumpkin as a kid. Now I love it. Especially pumpkin soup.

plonk 4y ago

I loved the smell of coffee before I started drinking it. The taste takes some getting used to but I liked it the first time anyway. I drink one cup a day with small effects but don't seem to get worse when I stop. It's very different from tobacco, where people seem to hate the first time and start liking it as the addiction sets up.

krab 4y ago
I absolutely love the smell of coffee. However, I don't enjoy drinking it in particular. I like it with a lot of milk and I find the taste of some coffee varieties quite interesting, enjoyable even. But not enough for daily drinking.

tetris11 4y ago

I think there are people who genuinely don't mind the taste, or at least acquire a palette for it. I for instance cannot handle the taste of many German beers. A Pils, sure; an IPA, if I have to; an English Ale fermented in a basement bartub, no problem. But a standard Helles, forget it - I've tried many times, it just doesn't take.

brokenkebab2 4y ago

>I suspect liking the taste is somewhat of a Pavlovian response to the effects caffeine Yup. Let's not forget added sugar however

im3w1l 4y ago

I find I often crave a taste sensation, any will do. Doesn't even have to be a taste I find pleasurable. Kinda to stave off boredom really. Tea (even herbal), coffee, soda or alcohol all scratch that itch.

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Broken_Hippo 4y ago

I don't. A lot of things with caffeine in them taste yummy, and the bitterness of coffee appeals to folks (just look at the popularity of bitter cocktails and other foods to see it in play in other areas). Not to mention that a fair amount of folks begin drinking coffee with milk and/or sugar in it - this is especially true if you start drinking coffee by drinking lattes. Plus, there is definitely a social component to drinking it if you are in the right area of the world (tea has some of the same social connections).

philliphaydon 4y ago
I mainly drink black coffee no sugar.
- Broken_Hippo 4y ago
  As do I - but I started with cream and sugar. I quit using cream and sugar both because black coffee is easier and because I try to drink mostly unsweetened beverages. But not everyone follows our example, and that's really the point. (I'd probably edit to make it more clear, but that time has passed)
- JoeAltmaier 4y ago
  I wonder if black coffee, which is objectively worse tasting and harder to drink, has something to do with the drinker accepting that it's no longer a social thing but now just feeding an addiction/self-medicating. So taking the 'pill' straight becomes a practical choice.
  - tharkun__ 4y ago
    I object to the word "objectively" there. Subjectively to you it is worse. I can't stand coffee with sugar. It's just a sugary drink, not coffee. I drink coffee either black or with a bit of milk - not coffee cream. Coffee does not taste bitter to me. Grapefruit on the other hand I cannot stand. I'll spit that out right away. I would say grapefruit is objectively the worst thing you can eat, yet I have to accept that it's definitely subjective as some people eat it without blinking an eye. Same goes with sour. I love sour stuff and things I drink and eat that are perfect, you might find "objectively too sour", while it's really subjective.

necheffa 4y ago

I add cream and sugar if I'm getting coffee out. At home, I'm drinking it black. Most places, especially ones that don't specialize in coffee, do not properly clean their equipment and prep the brew. If I was just a junkie, I would use cream and sugar at home too.

BaseballPhysics 4y ago

> I can't imagine many 15-year olds trying coffee for the first time, thinking "this tastes awesome." If that's your litmus test then no one would eat (warning: polarizing list approaching) durian or Vegemite or lutefisk. Acquired tastes are a thing. I personally used to hate olives and now I love them, and they don't, to my knowledge, induce positive psychoactive effects that would create a Pavlovian response.

philliphaydon 4y ago
I hated pumpkin as a kid. Now I love it. Especially pumpkin soup.