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The order of magnitude for the risk is 1:100,000. To put the risk into context: You get higher pericardial inflammation risk from tattoo, piercing the ears or
by nabla9 4y ago
The order of magnitude for the risk is 1:100,000.
To put the risk into context: You get higher pericardial inflammation risk from tattoo, piercing the ears or going to dentist. The inflammation risk level is close to what you get from getting your skin pierced with supposedly sterile object.
Occurrences of hypersensitivity and inappropriate immune responses to vaccines are inevitable if the vaccine tries to boost immune system. The risk is higher with young people because they have more active immune system.
With one order of magnitude lower risk you almost certainly will get even worse, like Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS). That happens with normal flu shots as well. Just the genetic variation among people makes it almost certain that 1 in 1,000,000 gets fucked.
ps. The risk of myocarditis (or pericarditis or myopericarditis) from primary COVID19 infection among young males infected with the virus is up 6 times more likely s as those who have received the vaccine. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/
- georgia_peach 4y agoThis is a board of programmers, engineers, & businesspeople. Did you really need to explain 1:100k to them?
- jack_pp 4y agoThe difference is the govt wasn't trying to force you to get a tattoo or pierce your ears
- nabla9 4y agoGovernment is not forcing, it's strongly recommending. The government is trying to save lifes and succeeded.
- logicchains 4y ago>The government is trying to save lifes and succeeded. The original trials for MRNA vaccines didn't actually demonstrate that they save lives (no reduction in overall mortality), as per this preprint in the Lancet: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4072489 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4072489 .
- benjaminwootton 4y agoBy preventing you from going to work (eg NYC) or using public transport (Canada) or entering public spaces (much of the world.). It absolutely stinks that people were compelled to take the vaccine despite the odds of harm from the actual disease.
- nabla9 4y agoAll reasonable measures. All these 'personal freedom' people say government when they mean the society as a whole. You were allowed to stay alone without vaccines. Participating in society is done with the conditions set up by the society. You can be free of society when you are alone in remote areas.
- inkblotuniverse 4y agoIn many regions, local society as a whole disagreed with the mandates of the distant government. That was my experience- people trying to go about their lives and being hassled by the police for having friends over.
- switch007 4y ago> Participating in society is done with the conditions set up by the society. People say society when they mean governments (“conditions”)
- jseban 4y agoWell it's questionable when that personal freedom is part of the same society's constitutional law. In that case, there would be no limits at all to what a society can and can't do, just declare martial law at any time for any reason. That's the same thing as living in a totalitarian dictatorship. Can society actually become the opposite of itself over night, and this should not be questioned? One of the core basic principles of society is this freedom, and suddenly it's obvious that society can take away freedom whenever it wants? Does not even need to be debated and people who have show any form of surprise or need to talk about this, should be ridiculed?
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