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> People have forgotten in these companies you are there to give your time and get paid for said time given. Period. Well put - you're in a business relationsh

> People have forgotten in these companies you are there to give your time and get paid for said time given. Period. Well put - you're in a business relationship with your employer, they're not there to provide religious instruction, you do you job and they pay you for it - period!

matsemann 4y ago
A company is where people spend most of their time, so of course the companies should cater to how people want to live their lives. Period...
- pc86 4y ago
  No, in any sane work arrangement you spend the majority of your time somewhere other than work.
  - em-bee 4y ago
    only if you count sleeping.
    - pc86 4y ago
      Are you sleeping at work? Regardless, the point stands unless you work nearly 60 hours a week. (24*7-8*7)/2=56 If you're working 60 hour weeks I'm pretty sure you're not getting 8 hours of sleep every night, either.
      - em-bee 4y ago
        sleep: 48-56 hours; work: 40 hours that leaves 72-80 hours for other stuff. but, you are not spending those 80 hours in a single location. work-lunch and commute: 10-15 hours; errands, shopping: 5 hours; go out, dinner, friends, etc: 5-10 hours; weekend activities: 5-15 hours. these numbers are made up based on my experience. some people spend more time at home than others. what remains is that work is the single largest block of time that you spend in the same location with the same group of people who are not all family and friends in an environment that you don't have any control over, and where you have no choice but to be there unless you quit your job. you don't even have to hang out at home if you don't like it there. so work better be a place where i actually enjoy spending time because life is to short to suffer through a bad workplace.
        pc86 4y ago
        Ah I see where our miscommunication is, I think. The comment I was responding to said "A company is where people spend most of their time" - I was simply saying that that's false, because most of your time is spent somewhere other than work. I think what you're saying is that (excluding sleep) a plurality of your time is spent at work, meaning that everything else you do (individually) is less time.
        pc86 4y ago
        To clarify, I was looking at "work" and "not work" and seeing "not work" at the top. You're (I think) looking at each individual activity, and seeing "work" in #1 or #2.
        em-bee 4y ago
        yes, i get what you are saying. what matters is that we need to look at time in the context of what should be adjusted to how people want to live their lives to answer that question we need to look at what is taking up the biggest chunk in our life because that is where a change will have the most effect. if the biggest chunk is supposed to be "not work" then we end up with hundreds of little things that are different for every person that we could improve (many of which in fact are being improved) while we are ignoring the one chunk that affects most people a large part of their time, which is work. it is interesting to note that one of the things that is happening slowly is the reduction of work hours (4day week, etc) which puts a larger focus on the "not work" parts of our lives. less work means we need more options for people to spend their free time.

matsemann 4y ago

A company is where people spend most of their time, so of course the companies should cater to how people want to live their lives. Period...

pc86 4y ago
No, in any sane work arrangement you spend the majority of your time somewhere other than work.
- em-bee 4y ago
  only if you count sleeping.
  - pc86 4y ago
    Are you sleeping at work? Regardless, the point stands unless you work nearly 60 hours a week. (24*7-8*7)/2=56 If you're working 60 hour weeks I'm pretty sure you're not getting 8 hours of sleep every night, either.
    - em-bee 4y ago
      sleep: 48-56 hours; work: 40 hours that leaves 72-80 hours for other stuff. but, you are not spending those 80 hours in a single location. work-lunch and commute: 10-15 hours; errands, shopping: 5 hours; go out, dinner, friends, etc: 5-10 hours; weekend activities: 5-15 hours. these numbers are made up based on my experience. some people spend more time at home than others. what remains is that work is the single largest block of time that you spend in the same location with the same group of people who are not all family and friends in an environment that you don't have any control over, and where you have no choice but to be there unless you quit your job. you don't even have to hang out at home if you don't like it there. so work better be a place where i actually enjoy spending time because life is to short to suffer through a bad workplace.
      - pc86 4y ago
        Ah I see where our miscommunication is, I think. The comment I was responding to said "A company is where people spend most of their time" - I was simply saying that that's false, because most of your time is spent somewhere other than work. I think what you're saying is that (excluding sleep) a plurality of your time is spent at work, meaning that everything else you do (individually) is less time.
        pc86 4y ago
        To clarify, I was looking at "work" and "not work" and seeing "not work" at the top. You're (I think) looking at each individual activity, and seeing "work" in #1 or #2.
        em-bee 4y ago
        yes, i get what you are saying. what matters is that we need to look at time in the context of what should be adjusted to how people want to live their lives to answer that question we need to look at what is taking up the biggest chunk in our life because that is where a change will have the most effect. if the biggest chunk is supposed to be "not work" then we end up with hundreds of little things that are different for every person that we could improve (many of which in fact are being improved) while we are ignoring the one chunk that affects most people a large part of their time, which is work. it is interesting to note that one of the things that is happening slowly is the reduction of work hours (4day week, etc) which puts a larger focus on the "not work" parts of our lives. less work means we need more options for people to spend their free time.