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If you were to replace the religious belief with gender in his story would your assessment stay the same? You can use this method for example in this quote: "..

by kukx 4y ago

If you were to replace the religious belief with gender in his story would your assessment stay the same? You can use this method for example in this quote: "...VPs of research laughing in my face to HR representatives questioning my sanity based on my sincerely held religious beliefs...".

hackyhacky 4y ago
My criticism of the article is not based on a false assumption that religious discrimination is impossible, but rather that the author fails to offer a plausible, evidence-based case that such discrimination is actually happening to him. Failing to open an office in Louisiana is not evidence of religious discrimination. Obviously we can't know exactly how his conversation with the VP actually went, but I find the lack of detail to be conspicuous.
- kukx 4y ago
  Are you not moving the bar higher, from just an example, to now evidence? I am for high standards, it is just dangerous that, in the current culture, they are not the same for all.
  - yunohn 4y ago
    Why can’t we demand evidence for such strong claims by the author? I don’t get your point.
keithnz 4y ago
its not a simple matter of substituting gender though, this is about beliefs and it depends, if he's saying the chat bots have a soul, then I can imagine he is getting some diverse reactions ( from other thread ). But since this one doesn't give us concrete examples, hard to judge, but it sounds like maybe he is overlaying his religious beliefs on the work and perhaps thinking he is discriminated against for doing that? Generally in a professional environment there is just no mention of religion, but somehow its become a topic, not sure how.... and the details matter here.
yunohn 4y ago
“What if I replace the topic of your point with a completely different topic and claim you’re bigoted” You do understand how ridiculous this line of reasoning is, right?
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by kukx 4y ago

hackyhacky 4y ago

My criticism of the article is not based on a false assumption that religious discrimination is impossible, but rather that the author fails to offer a plausible, evidence-based case that such discrimination is actually happening to him. Failing to open an office in Louisiana is not evidence of religious discrimination. Obviously we can't know exactly how his conversation with the VP actually went, but I find the lack of detail to be conspicuous.

kukx 4y ago
Are you not moving the bar higher, from just an example, to now evidence? I am for high standards, it is just dangerous that, in the current culture, they are not the same for all.
- yunohn 4y ago
  Why can’t we demand evidence for such strong claims by the author? I don’t get your point.

keithnz 4y ago

its not a simple matter of substituting gender though, this is about beliefs and it depends, if he's saying the chat bots have a soul, then I can imagine he is getting some diverse reactions ( from other thread ). But since this one doesn't give us concrete examples, hard to judge, but it sounds like maybe he is overlaying his religious beliefs on the work and perhaps thinking he is discriminated against for doing that? Generally in a professional environment there is just no mention of religion, but somehow its become a topic, not sure how.... and the details matter here.

yunohn 4y ago

“What if I replace the topic of your point with a completely different topic and claim you’re bigoted” You do understand how ridiculous this line of reasoning is, right?

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