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Bruh. When are people going to stop expecting large public companies to cater to their every whim? It seems these days people are expecting every possible for

Bruh. When are people going to stop expecting large public companies to cater to their every whim? It seems these days people are expecting every possible form of accommodation and bending backwards. People have forgotten in these companies you are there to give your time and get paid for said time given. Period. Companies will do things to help employees spend even more hours and be more loyal to their workplace in the name of kowtowing to some kind of social or special interest group. But one should never look upon that as a right. One should always look on it as what it really is. A way to get more hours and loyalty from the employee. So long as the company is not nakedly abusing anyone (and companies are not so stupid) - we should go ahead, give the hours, get paid for said hours and do social activism in personal hours far away from the precincts of the workplace.

Simon_O_Rourke 4y ago
> People have forgotten in these companies you are there to give your time and get paid for said time given. Period. Well put - you're in a business relationship with your employer, they're not there to provide religious instruction, you do you job and they pay you for it - period!
- matsemann 4y ago
  A company is where people spend most of their time, so of course the companies should cater to how people want to live their lives. Period...
  - pc86 4y ago
    No, in any sane work arrangement you spend the majority of your time somewhere other than work.
    - em-bee 4y ago
      only if you count sleeping.
      - pc86 4y ago
        Are you sleeping at work? Regardless, the point stands unless you work nearly 60 hours a week. (24*7-8*7)/2=56 If you're working 60 hour weeks I'm pretty sure you're not getting 8 hours of sleep every night, either.
        em-bee 4y ago
        sleep: 48-56 hours; work: 40 hours that leaves 72-80 hours for other stuff. but, you are not spending those 80 hours in a single location. work-lunch and commute: 10-15 hours; errands, shopping: 5 hours; go out, dinner, friends, etc: 5-10 hours; weekend activities: 5-15 hours. these numbers are made up based on my experience. some people spend more time at home than others. what remains is that work is the single largest block of time that you spend in the same location with the same group of people who are not all family and friends in an environment that you don't have any control over, and where you have no choice but to be there unless you quit your job. you don't even have to hang out at home if you don't like it there. so work better be a place where i actually enjoy spending time because life is to short to suffer through a bad workplace.
        pc86 4y ago
        Ah I see where our miscommunication is, I think. The comment I was responding to said "A company is where people spend most of their time" - I was simply saying that that's false, because most of your time is spent somewhere other than work. I think what you're saying is that (excluding sleep) a plurality of your time is spent at work, meaning that everything else you do (individually) is less time.
        pc86 4y ago
        To clarify, I was looking at "work" and "not work" and seeing "not work" at the top. You're (I think) looking at each individual activity, and seeing "work" in #1 or #2.
        4y ago
annyeonghada 4y ago
>When are people going to stop expecting large public companies to cater to their every whim? When these companies will stop to cater to specific groups and will stay politically neutral. The moment they started making socio-political utterances is the moment they've become a political entity not merely an economical one. And given that Google has profits that surpass the budgets of entire countries they can, they will and they have already mold society to their specific political whims: it is best for all of us that these whims are checked against to remind us that there exist alternatives to their techno-dystopian future.
- matthewmacleod 4y ago
  You have to remember, however, that decisions companies make are things that people will interpret as “political” all the time - so this idea is without merit. Google providing directions to vaccination sites on a map is “political”. Providing equal benefits to same-sex couples when they can’t marry is “political”. Providing a virtual gallery that celebrates women artists over history is “political”. Too often “politically neutral” means “politically within a narrow range of values that I myself accept as uncontroversial” and hey-ho, you’re back to politics.
mrweasel 4y ago
If other employees are mocking or harrasing you for you beliefs, then I think the company should step in. A hostile work environment should not be tolerated. That being said: You leave your religious belief at home. Religion may guide you in life, but unless there’s a obvious reason religion is something you keep at home and in church/temple/whatever. You can believe anything you want, but you keep it to yourself. If you somehow involve me, then you give me permission to have an opinion.
- iLoveOncall 4y ago
  > If other employees are mocking or harrasing you for you beliefs Or harassing you WITH their beliefs, like OP is doing.
  - mrweasel 4y ago
    I didn’t get that impression. It seemed like the author openly talked about their beliefs, but didn’t like when people then shared their opinions about it.

Simon_O_Rourke 4y ago

> People have forgotten in these companies you are there to give your time and get paid for said time given. Period. Well put - you're in a business relationship with your employer, they're not there to provide religious instruction, you do you job and they pay you for it - period!

matsemann 4y ago
A company is where people spend most of their time, so of course the companies should cater to how people want to live their lives. Period...
- pc86 4y ago
  No, in any sane work arrangement you spend the majority of your time somewhere other than work.
  - em-bee 4y ago
    only if you count sleeping.
    - pc86 4y ago
      Are you sleeping at work? Regardless, the point stands unless you work nearly 60 hours a week. (24*7-8*7)/2=56 If you're working 60 hour weeks I'm pretty sure you're not getting 8 hours of sleep every night, either.
      - em-bee 4y ago
        sleep: 48-56 hours; work: 40 hours that leaves 72-80 hours for other stuff. but, you are not spending those 80 hours in a single location. work-lunch and commute: 10-15 hours; errands, shopping: 5 hours; go out, dinner, friends, etc: 5-10 hours; weekend activities: 5-15 hours. these numbers are made up based on my experience. some people spend more time at home than others. what remains is that work is the single largest block of time that you spend in the same location with the same group of people who are not all family and friends in an environment that you don't have any control over, and where you have no choice but to be there unless you quit your job. you don't even have to hang out at home if you don't like it there. so work better be a place where i actually enjoy spending time because life is to short to suffer through a bad workplace.
        pc86 4y ago
        Ah I see where our miscommunication is, I think. The comment I was responding to said "A company is where people spend most of their time" - I was simply saying that that's false, because most of your time is spent somewhere other than work. I think what you're saying is that (excluding sleep) a plurality of your time is spent at work, meaning that everything else you do (individually) is less time.
        pc86 4y ago
        To clarify, I was looking at "work" and "not work" and seeing "not work" at the top. You're (I think) looking at each individual activity, and seeing "work" in #1 or #2.
        4y ago

annyeonghada 4y ago

>When are people going to stop expecting large public companies to cater to their every whim? When these companies will stop to cater to specific groups and will stay politically neutral. The moment they started making socio-political utterances is the moment they've become a political entity not merely an economical one. And given that Google has profits that surpass the budgets of entire countries they can, they will and they have already mold society to their specific political whims: it is best for all of us that these whims are checked against to remind us that there exist alternatives to their techno-dystopian future.

matthewmacleod 4y ago
You have to remember, however, that decisions companies make are things that people will interpret as “political” all the time - so this idea is without merit. Google providing directions to vaccination sites on a map is “political”. Providing equal benefits to same-sex couples when they can’t marry is “political”. Providing a virtual gallery that celebrates women artists over history is “political”. Too often “politically neutral” means “politically within a narrow range of values that I myself accept as uncontroversial” and hey-ho, you’re back to politics.

mrweasel 4y ago

If other employees are mocking or harrasing you for you beliefs, then I think the company should step in. A hostile work environment should not be tolerated. That being said: You leave your religious belief at home. Religion may guide you in life, but unless there’s a obvious reason religion is something you keep at home and in church/temple/whatever. You can believe anything you want, but you keep it to yourself. If you somehow involve me, then you give me permission to have an opinion.

iLoveOncall 4y ago
> If other employees are mocking or harrasing you for you beliefs Or harassing you WITH their beliefs, like OP is doing.
- mrweasel 4y ago
  I didn’t get that impression. It seemed like the author openly talked about their beliefs, but didn’t like when people then shared their opinions about it.