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Technically, the employee would not be fired right away. He or she, however, would be red flagged for close observation by being put on a Performance Plan. Ba
by wallflower 15y ago
Technically, the employee would not be fired right away.
He or she, however, would be red flagged for close observation by being put on a Performance Plan.
Basically, a PP is required to legally fire you. For example, if you had a bad record of coming in at a consistent time, they could put you on a PP. In this PP (which you would have to sign as a condition of further employment), there would be a contract for coming in between 9 and 9:15 for the next thirty days, with a small margin of forgiveness. PP are used to document that you have behaved poorly or acted wrongly in the corporate context. Once you are put on a PP, it is a prelude to a firing. You can successfully get out of a PP, but it is stressful.
For the hypothetical Ruby programmer in the Java shop, the PP would probably involve something insidious like LOC.
- jamesbritt 15y agoBasically, a PP is required to legally fire you. Where are you talking about? Laws vary, even among the states in the USA.
- wallflower 15y agoWhen I mean legally, I mean to protect the company against being sued for firing you. Yes, there are cases where there are immediate terminations. PP assist in the less egregious cases where there is gray areas. In fact, you can argue that the entire point of an HR department is to protect the company from getting sued.
- scottschulthess 15y agoIt depends on the state. You can't (successfully) sue a company in Massachusetts (like California) for any reason besides discrimination. They don't need to give a reason why they fire/lay you off. They just fire you and that's how it goes. Not all states are like this.
- Daniel_Newby 15y ago> You can't (successfully) sue a company in Massachusetts (like California) for any reason besides discrimination. Being fired while belonging to an Identified Minority is harassment and discrimination unless done according to a documented failure of a Personal Improvement Plan.
- maaku 15y agoIn California at least, employment is at-will. You can be fired for any reason (except discriminatory reasons), or even no reason at all.
- anthonyb 15y agoPPs (and similar shenanigans) are a great way to turn your company into a smoking crater, programmer-wise. Doubly so for relatively insignificant things like not turning up at 9.00am...