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Also the hardness of handstand is strictly dependent on your weight. A normal person at 50kg should have no problem learning handstand in 30 days, 90kg with no

Also the hardness of handstand is strictly dependent on your weight. A normal person at 50kg should have no problem learning handstand in 30 days, 90kg with no prior fitness training to handstand in 60 days is next to impossible.

Jtsummers 4y ago
A 90kg person can definitely get to it in 60 days. My only fitness before starting BJJ in 2015 was running (which I did regularly) and I weighed about 90kg. I was successfully hand walking down the length of the mats during our warmups in a couple months (though I was falling a lot in the first month, and was never stellar at it). I'm also uncertain how 50kg is the weight of a normal person. If I get below 75kg I'm around 5% body fat, and I'm barely above the US male average height. Getting to 50kg would mean losing a substantial amount of muscle mass, I literally have never had enough fat and so little muscle (even when I was obese) to be able to healthily cut down to that weight. And, again, I'm only about 1cm over the US average.
- smsm42 4y ago
  If you're a regular runner, you probably are pretty lean, way leaner than an average techie, and probably leaner than most people. 90kg can be 90kg at 15% fat, or 90kg at 20% fat, or 90kg at 30% fat. Those would be very different starting points.
- pedrosorio 4y ago
  > I'm also uncertain how 50kg is the weight of a normal person. (...) In this paragraph you seem to be interpreting "A normal person at 50kg" from the parent comment to mean "the average person, who weighs 50kg", when what they are saying is "a 50kg person who is neither too fit not too out of shape". A slim (but not extremely thin) 5'4" (1.62m) woman weighs around that much.
taylorius 4y ago
I'm 6'4" (192cm) and 120kg. I do Capoeira (which I would HIGHLY recommend for fitness, and general good times. It's a blend of martial arts kicks and acrobatic type moves - very dynamic, and visually spectacular). I'm developing my handstand, and strength-wise it's fine, my problem is the fear of falling over backwards. My practice space is hard wood floor, and I do NOT fancy crashing down like a falling tree. If I know the wall is there to catch me if I go over, I'm fine - so I probably need to try with a crash mat or something.
- tomcdonnell 4y ago
  To get over the fear of falling over backwards, you must learn to turn your tree trunk like fall into a collapse to a ball and then a forward roll. If you have a bit of muscle on your back and shoulders rolling even on a hard floor should not be too uncomfortable. (A crash mat is still a good idea though.)

Jtsummers 4y ago

A 90kg person can definitely get to it in 60 days. My only fitness before starting BJJ in 2015 was running (which I did regularly) and I weighed about 90kg. I was successfully hand walking down the length of the mats during our warmups in a couple months (though I was falling a lot in the first month, and was never stellar at it). I'm also uncertain how 50kg is the weight of a normal person. If I get below 75kg I'm around 5% body fat, and I'm barely above the US male average height. Getting to 50kg would mean losing a substantial amount of muscle mass, I literally have never had enough fat and so little muscle (even when I was obese) to be able to healthily cut down to that weight. And, again, I'm only about 1cm over the US average.

smsm42 4y ago
If you're a regular runner, you probably are pretty lean, way leaner than an average techie, and probably leaner than most people. 90kg can be 90kg at 15% fat, or 90kg at 20% fat, or 90kg at 30% fat. Those would be very different starting points.
pedrosorio 4y ago
> I'm also uncertain how 50kg is the weight of a normal person. (...) In this paragraph you seem to be interpreting "A normal person at 50kg" from the parent comment to mean "the average person, who weighs 50kg", when what they are saying is "a 50kg person who is neither too fit not too out of shape". A slim (but not extremely thin) 5'4" (1.62m) woman weighs around that much.

taylorius 4y ago

I'm 6'4" (192cm) and 120kg. I do Capoeira (which I would HIGHLY recommend for fitness, and general good times. It's a blend of martial arts kicks and acrobatic type moves - very dynamic, and visually spectacular). I'm developing my handstand, and strength-wise it's fine, my problem is the fear of falling over backwards. My practice space is hard wood floor, and I do NOT fancy crashing down like a falling tree. If I know the wall is there to catch me if I go over, I'm fine - so I probably need to try with a crash mat or something.

tomcdonnell 4y ago
To get over the fear of falling over backwards, you must learn to turn your tree trunk like fall into a collapse to a ball and then a forward roll. If you have a bit of muscle on your back and shoulders rolling even on a hard floor should not be too uncomfortable. (A crash mat is still a good idea though.)