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It’s about coming together as a team as far as I’m concern and get energized for the day. It doesn’t work for everyone and that’s ok. “Quick planning” is like

It’s about coming together as a team as far as I’m concern and get energized for the day. It doesn’t work for everyone and that’s ok. “Quick planning” is like, “Hey, I need with this today. Is anyone available?” But really it’s about coming together for me.

sanderjd 4y ago
I don't want to diminish your experience, I recognize that this makes sense for you, but it's a "to each their own" situation and I want to give you a perspective from the other side: I find stand-ups to be the exact opposite of energizing. The way I get energized is when I have something I'm so excited about working on that I've spent the whole night or weekend having to remind myself to stop thinking about it and be present with my family or friends, and then I sit down at my desk and get to dive straight into it. An hour or two later when I start following up on emails or doing chats or a stand up, that's fine, but it's not energizing, it's just when reality sets in. I think this is just like the remote vs. in-person thing; it's mostly a personality trait. I don't have the "daily team ritual" gene, but others do, and that's ok.
- sodapopcan 4y ago
  Oh ya, if you read my replies around this thread (I’m not suggesting you should) I’m saying that it’s “to each their own.” I’m only defending stand up as a concept, but if a team doesn’t find it valuable they shouldn’t do it (same goes for all rituals and meetings). I’m realizing now there is a distinction on where the discussion is “I’m being forced to do stand up and it sucks” vs “This is why I like stand up.” As someone in the latter camp, if your standup is a soul-sucking status report (pr just plain soul-sucking), then atop doing it! And yet, your company is forcing you to do it. And that sucks.
  - sanderjd 4y ago
    Yeah totally, I got the sense that we agree on "to each their own" but land in different places. The unfortunate thing is that it's totally possible (indeed common) for members of a team to come down in different places on this. So you could have half the team's eyes glazing over every day while the other half of the team would lament losing the ritual.

sanderjd 4y ago

I don't want to diminish your experience, I recognize that this makes sense for you, but it's a "to each their own" situation and I want to give you a perspective from the other side: I find stand-ups to be the exact opposite of energizing. The way I get energized is when I have something I'm so excited about working on that I've spent the whole night or weekend having to remind myself to stop thinking about it and be present with my family or friends, and then I sit down at my desk and get to dive straight into it. An hour or two later when I start following up on emails or doing chats or a stand up, that's fine, but it's not energizing, it's just when reality sets in. I think this is just like the remote vs. in-person thing; it's mostly a personality trait. I don't have the "daily team ritual" gene, but others do, and that's ok.

sodapopcan 4y ago
Oh ya, if you read my replies around this thread (I’m not suggesting you should) I’m saying that it’s “to each their own.” I’m only defending stand up as a concept, but if a team doesn’t find it valuable they shouldn’t do it (same goes for all rituals and meetings). I’m realizing now there is a distinction on where the discussion is “I’m being forced to do stand up and it sucks” vs “This is why I like stand up.” As someone in the latter camp, if your standup is a soul-sucking status report (pr just plain soul-sucking), then atop doing it! And yet, your company is forcing you to do it. And that sucks.
- sanderjd 4y ago
  Yeah totally, I got the sense that we agree on "to each their own" but land in different places. The unfortunate thing is that it's totally possible (indeed common) for members of a team to come down in different places on this. So you could have half the team's eyes glazing over every day while the other half of the team would lament losing the ritual.