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I just don't want more government regulation, we have enough

by themitigating 4y ago

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d1str0 4y ago
Were you equally against the FAA regulating the use of drones around airports?
- themitigating 4y ago
  No, because that's for safety.
otterley 4y ago
What’s a viable alternative?
- themitigating 4y ago
  Don't use whatsapp
  - otterley 4y ago
    What should people use instead that is free and easy to use, has the same features WhatsApp does, and is ubiquitous? Realistic answers only, please.
    - hda111 4y ago
      Signal
      - otterley 4y ago
        Unfortunately Signal does not meet the "ubiquity" criterion, as far fewer people have it installed than WhatsApp. Signal can also terminate your number if they so choose.
        root_axis 4y ago
        Your criteria is arbitrary. Ubiquity is not a necessity, neither is feature parity with WhatsApp. There are dozens of messaging apps and people typically use many different messaging apps, if the communication is worthwhile your friend will install an app to communicate with you.
        otterley 4y ago
        If that is true, why do some messaging apps gain critical mass, while others are relegated to niche use? I don’t think the data is consistent with your claims.
        root_axis 4y ago
        "Critical mass" is a subjective description, there must always be a most popular platform by definition, but there isn't actually a practical distinction you can point to that contradicts the fact that there are dozens of messaging options.
arnvald 4y ago
What do you suggest then? Without regulation we'll allow companies to ban people via algorithms without an option to appeal the decision and talk to actual human being. We can keep saying "uninstall WhatsApp/Messenger/WeChat!" but for a lot of people this it not viable, because it means cutting social connections or losing clients. There are countries like Spain where WhatsApp is the way to communicate on-line and few people use other IMs. There are a few things that can change it - either a technology shift (e.g. mobile revolution ended Windows dominance), black swan event (like pandemic that moved everyone to hybrid/remote work), or government regulation. If we don't want the government to intervene, we need to accept that we might be randomly banned by an algorithm and there's nothing we can do about it.

I just don't want more government regulation, we have enough

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d1str0 4y ago

Were you equally against the FAA regulating the use of drones around airports?

themitigating 4y ago
No, because that's for safety.

otterley 4y ago

What’s a viable alternative?

themitigating 4y ago
Don't use whatsapp
- otterley 4y ago
  What should people use instead that is free and easy to use, has the same features WhatsApp does, and is ubiquitous? Realistic answers only, please.
  - hda111 4y ago
    Signal
    - otterley 4y ago
      Unfortunately Signal does not meet the "ubiquity" criterion, as far fewer people have it installed than WhatsApp. Signal can also terminate your number if they so choose.
      - root_axis 4y ago
        Your criteria is arbitrary. Ubiquity is not a necessity, neither is feature parity with WhatsApp. There are dozens of messaging apps and people typically use many different messaging apps, if the communication is worthwhile your friend will install an app to communicate with you.
        otterley 4y ago
        If that is true, why do some messaging apps gain critical mass, while others are relegated to niche use? I don’t think the data is consistent with your claims.
        root_axis 4y ago
        "Critical mass" is a subjective description, there must always be a most popular platform by definition, but there isn't actually a practical distinction you can point to that contradicts the fact that there are dozens of messaging options.

arnvald 4y ago

What do you suggest then? Without regulation we'll allow companies to ban people via algorithms without an option to appeal the decision and talk to actual human being. We can keep saying "uninstall WhatsApp/Messenger/WeChat!" but for a lot of people this it not viable, because it means cutting social connections or losing clients. There are countries like Spain where WhatsApp is the way to communicate on-line and few people use other IMs. There are a few things that can change it - either a technology shift (e.g. mobile revolution ended Windows dominance), black swan event (like pandemic that moved everyone to hybrid/remote work), or government regulation. If we don't want the government to intervene, we need to accept that we might be randomly banned by an algorithm and there's nothing we can do about it.