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Do I have to walk over feces and needles to get to work at a suburban office park model? Can I afford housing? Sure, sounds lame if I'm 23. What if -- crazy id

by rhexs 4y ago

Do I have to walk over feces and needles to get to work at a suburban office park model? Can I afford housing? Sure, sounds lame if I'm 23. What if -- crazy idea -- we have a variety of both options?

mertd 4y ago
Urban areas don't have to have lots of petty crime and homelessness. Let's not assume they come as a package. Certain sectors clustering together in a geographic region has nice advantages even for non-23yo non-single folk. One can hop jobs without uprooting the rest of the family.
- mathgladiator 4y ago
  In Seattle, it became the norm. Honestly, my commute from an island required exiting a ferry terminal. On the way from the terminal to the office, I eventually went dead on the inside after stepping over sleeping homeless and wretched smells.
  - hezralig 4y ago
    I used to work in San Francisco and after buying a house on Bainbridge Island, I now work in an office around the Westlake Center. It really isn't that bad mate. After living around the world (central Europe, SE Asia), Los Angeles, the mid west, I can say that people who complain about smells and the homeless are incredibly sheltered. I find they tell on themselves when they complain about seeing homeless people when the crime rate is down across the board from the last 20 years. If you are so offended by seeing someone in distress, who is probably more dead on the inside trying to survive in a world whose upward mobility is strongly diminishing, then perhaps you shouldn't be going into that community to begin with.
    - mathgladiator 4y ago
      My solution, at that time, was to stop walking beyond the terminal exit then hailing an Uber to pick me up. That tunnel under the highway was bad. It's perfectly fair to complain whilst having empathy for people. The lack of solutions or even enforcement is a problem, and I voted with my feet to live away from it.
      - hezralig 4y ago
        Enforcement of what? Sit-lie laws?
mike50 4y ago
Sorry but any suburb of a real city NYC Boston Miami Washington DC is just as unafordable or needle ridden as the city.

by rhexs 4y ago

Do I have to walk over feces and needles to get to work at a suburban office park model? Can I afford housing? Sure, sounds lame if I'm 23. What if -- crazy idea -- we have a variety of both options?

mertd 4y ago

Urban areas don't have to have lots of petty crime and homelessness. Let's not assume they come as a package. Certain sectors clustering together in a geographic region has nice advantages even for non-23yo non-single folk. One can hop jobs without uprooting the rest of the family.

mathgladiator 4y ago
In Seattle, it became the norm. Honestly, my commute from an island required exiting a ferry terminal. On the way from the terminal to the office, I eventually went dead on the inside after stepping over sleeping homeless and wretched smells.
- hezralig 4y ago
  I used to work in San Francisco and after buying a house on Bainbridge Island, I now work in an office around the Westlake Center. It really isn't that bad mate. After living around the world (central Europe, SE Asia), Los Angeles, the mid west, I can say that people who complain about smells and the homeless are incredibly sheltered. I find they tell on themselves when they complain about seeing homeless people when the crime rate is down across the board from the last 20 years. If you are so offended by seeing someone in distress, who is probably more dead on the inside trying to survive in a world whose upward mobility is strongly diminishing, then perhaps you shouldn't be going into that community to begin with.
  - mathgladiator 4y ago
    My solution, at that time, was to stop walking beyond the terminal exit then hailing an Uber to pick me up. That tunnel under the highway was bad. It's perfectly fair to complain whilst having empathy for people. The lack of solutions or even enforcement is a problem, and I voted with my feet to live away from it.
    - hezralig 4y ago
      Enforcement of what? Sit-lie laws?

mike50 4y ago

Sorry but any suburb of a real city NYC Boston Miami Washington DC is just as unafordable or needle ridden as the city.