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It's still not actually available to people who paid for it, and it doesn't actually work* (at least not to a degree where it can be trusted not to crash in to

by bagels 4y ago

It's still not actually available to people who paid for it, and it doesn't actually work* (at least not to a degree where it can be trusted not to crash in to street signs or parked cars). I have no idea why anyone pays a $10k premium for vaporware.

netsharc 4y ago
Gotta love the apologists as well, because hey, if I admit I was conned out of money for some buggy-ass deadly software, then who's the idiot, and I know I'm not an idiot, so this software works, yeah it has a few kinks, but it's great, and soon it'll be chaffeuring me all over the place! Soon! He tweeted!
pengaru 4y ago
I suspect the venn diagram of people paying $10k for Tesla vaporware and people who've realized >$10k in gains trading TSLA stock is pretty close to a circle.
- bagels 4y ago
  I think that is actually a decent point. Definitely know people that bought Teslas with their Tesla stock gains.
  - cecilpl2 4y ago
    I've made enough off TSLA to afford a Tesla, but I'm actually now considering the Ioniq 5 over the Model Y. Specs are very similar and it's like 2/3 the price. I've been a believer in Tesla for a decade now but it is starting to seem like the competition is catching up.
alistairSH 4y ago
$10k is insane. That’s 1/4 the price of my nicely loaded Honda Ridgeline (or pretty much any well-loaded mainstream sedan or crossover). Yah, I don’t have an AI trying to drive (and crash into fire engines) for me, but I have basic lane-keeping, auto braking, and assisted cruise. I still have to drive the car. The horror.
mceachen 4y ago
FSD is now a $12k premium. https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview
rootusrootus 4y ago
A non-transferrable $10K premium, at that. Unless something has changed. I've always wondered what is going to happen when the early adopters start to move on to their next car without ever having received any value for the FSD license.
clintonb 4y ago
FSD was $7k in spring 2020, but your point remains.
brandonagr2 4y ago
I paid for it and have been using FSD beta for over 6 months, the most recent 10.12 is a big improvement on smoothness and further improves my confidence in the system

by bagels 4y ago

netsharc 4y ago

Gotta love the apologists as well, because hey, if I admit I was conned out of money for some buggy-ass deadly software, then who's the idiot, and I know I'm not an idiot, so this software works, yeah it has a few kinks, but it's great, and soon it'll be chaffeuring me all over the place! Soon! He tweeted!

pengaru 4y ago

I suspect the venn diagram of people paying $10k for Tesla vaporware and people who've realized >$10k in gains trading TSLA stock is pretty close to a circle.

bagels 4y ago
I think that is actually a decent point. Definitely know people that bought Teslas with their Tesla stock gains.
- cecilpl2 4y ago
  I've made enough off TSLA to afford a Tesla, but I'm actually now considering the Ioniq 5 over the Model Y. Specs are very similar and it's like 2/3 the price. I've been a believer in Tesla for a decade now but it is starting to seem like the competition is catching up.

alistairSH 4y ago

$10k is insane. That’s 1/4 the price of my nicely loaded Honda Ridgeline (or pretty much any well-loaded mainstream sedan or crossover). Yah, I don’t have an AI trying to drive (and crash into fire engines) for me, but I have basic lane-keeping, auto braking, and assisted cruise. I still have to drive the car. The horror.

mceachen 4y ago

FSD is now a $12k premium. https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview

rootusrootus 4y ago

A non-transferrable $10K premium, at that. Unless something has changed. I've always wondered what is going to happen when the early adopters start to move on to their next car without ever having received any value for the FSD license.

clintonb 4y ago

FSD was $7k in spring 2020, but your point remains.

brandonagr2 4y ago

I paid for it and have been using FSD beta for over 6 months, the most recent 10.12 is a big improvement on smoothness and further improves my confidence in the system