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What is the alternative? In a situation where the software has detected an imminent and inevitable crash, the _only_ sensible action is to turn off self-driving
by axg11 4y ago
What is the alternative? In a situation where the software has detected an imminent and inevitable crash, the _only_ sensible action is to turn off self-driving and revert to 100% human control. I don’t see this action alone as Tesla attempting to avoid culpability.
The only exception to reverting to human control is if the software predicts there is a path to accident avoidance. In that case, the accident-avoiding action should be taken. That’s almost a tautology as it’s a given that FSD software will always _try_ to avoid accidents.
Culpability should be an entirely separate question. What are the expectations of use for a particular FSD software? Tesla is treading a fine line, but my understanding is that you are still expected to pay attention to the road and be ready to take control whenever using FSD.
Perhaps Tesla should also be modelling reaction times? If the time between reverting to human control and the moment of impact is too short, then you could argue the accident is a result of the software. However, what about the time between risk identification and impact time? Different people would identify a risk at different times. The same will be true for different self driving algorithms. FSD has a long tail problem. Very rare events are difficult to learn and test for. The best system we have for dealing with rare events is a human driver - so it’s more than reasonable to me to flip over control to drivers under these circumstances.
- solardev 4y agoAs someone who's not versed in the ins and outs of FSD, can I ask why it's better to revert to human control in the case of an unavoidable crash? If a human sees that's about to happen, they'd likely just scream and jerk the steering wheel some random direction and slam the breaks and generally cause a loss of control, no? If the FSD can predict a crash and calculate all the trajectories, can't it at least attempt to steer the vehicle in such a way to minimize collision forces (try to glance by the other car if it doesn't take you off a cliff) and/or orient the car for maximum protection (avoid tbones) or even just brake with a faster reaction time and safer ramp that doesn't skid the tires? I'm genuinely wondering here why reverting control is considered safer.
- Geekoid 4y agoThe sensible thing is to apply the breaks. Tesla Advertise FSD and Crash avoidance. Turning it off is crash acceptance. You whole paragraph about time show you no nothing about vehicle impacts.